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Episode 3 · 3 years ago

S1E3: Travel

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

What completely arbitrary and random topics will we cover this week with our guest Alysa Tarrant? Tune in to find out!


Hint: political civility, superhero movies, smart technology, Marshmello, travelling across Europe, and weird laws.

Watsof, Ladies and gentlemen, it is ourthird episodes and chance yeah. We have made it this par talk. If you're stilllistening, we are on itudes and Pod B and KSE. You forgot, we have a twitter,that's Aur, piers blet, they would still isn't theot. OARESIT NICKD isNick Pavin show our show is called Witavi, Ava show and also th same thing:Oi W yeah and, like our facewook page likeour twitter, you know conge were really struggling, we're really struggling. Wedon't know if Ho guy saw some sponsored material, it don't com, okay, we're promoting R yor workingrospread us out, yeah, okay, alright, good tis go be a goodepisode. Weeach have two topics, maybe yeah I think Damit has to. I got twotime yeah, so we're just Goinna we're going to go, and we got a great guesscoming on later so yeah day to se, to as Thaut further do nick wou you liketo start, I would love to start. Do it so the other day we listen to an NPRpodcast about Darryl David, really, actuallyhighly recommend listening to it. If you can find this, it's about DarelDavis, WHO's, an African American Blues, musician and Roger Kelly, who was animperial wizard and Maryland for the KKK. It was about their kind offriendship and how, over time they talked and everything then eventuallyRoger Kelly, like left the KK and the KKK doesn't exist in Marylan anymore,and it was about kind of like conversation right. What do you think of that? First off Ithot it was really really compelling. I mean as a podcast as someone who nowappreciates the wordoh yeah I was on ast like we said NPR's gold standard,but the actual content. I mean Prit very, very compelling story. I did notthink it was going to go where it actually went. No, I don't Oo Spoilitdefit Bout Itor, not. I know I'm kind of moving off that, but that kind ofspark this topic, but okay, yeah, but check out that podcast. It was verygreat, very hold a silver dollar wounds or something anyway, Ho'll still findit. But so that kind of got me startedthinking about civility and the world civililian politics, because you knowwe have mid terms coming up and it's kind of been on the table lately. Solike Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chirston, Neos Hilson wasdriven out of Ha Mexican restaurant people were shouting like shame adder,because she's one of the people that helped like construct the border familyseparation policy right after that stepen Miller, who'sanother like trump imigration or Phitet guy- was called it Fascis, an anotherMexican restaurant he was eating at. I don't know why these people are eatingat Mexican restaurants. That seems to be like a recurring thing withadministration, but then it kind of blew up when WhiteHouse press correspondence. Sarah Hucoulbe Sanders was denied service ata restaurant in Virginia like she walked in and they son. Her were likeno leave and she tweeted about it. Het kind of blew up and all theseRepublicans are complaining about civilityes saying that Democrats arebeing like rude and impolite, and I just don't. I have thoughts onthat, but I want to hear like what do you think? The role of civilianpolitics is like, obviously, we don't want shouting matches in Congress likethat, wouldn't be productive, but no yeah. But like protest and likeconfrontation, I don't know restaurants can refuse the right toself to oservice to anyone. You know, and that might start controversy. As with thiseverything, that's going on that you just said, but yeah on one hand inclass demates and everything in general. There definitely is a fine line betweengetting in a shouting match an everybody's face right versus actuallysaying what you think, and I think I forgot- which classes it was, but wewere actually there was in theories. We were talking about how there's kind oflike this. You know everyone's kind of trained to starting like way back mine.You know when you're arguing something you need to be very assertede bet, Ouneed to be loud and you need to be very dominant, which isn't necessarily youknow we were kind of explaniing. Why was that even a thing in the firstplace, and I think that there's a way to be passionate about what you believein without shouting in someone's Basedon e,constructive right calling mames it? Somebody else, however, especially withhow heated our country is right now I understand that it's very very hard,and so I don't that's a complety, so yeah, so I kind of might take on thatis that kind of like and so first off, I feel, likeRepublicans complaining about Civility, is very hypocritical at this point,like trump ran his entire campaign with like lockerup chance for Hilary Clintonand like comments about disabled reporters and like saying allMexicans were rapis like Bo Samilli has never been on the table, so I kind offeel like that's out of the the question I like res: That's just not agreat take for a Republican...

Conservative politician or likecolunist bull beyond that. I kind of feel like like you want to beconstructed with everything right, but also these aren't like emotionalemotion, fiel policy debates that are like spiraling out of control. Like Idon't that's not what this is. This is at least in my eyes. This is like abasic disagreement over fundamental civil righe and Human Righe, and Idon't know where the line is, because you want to be civil right. You want tobe constructive and like hear what they have to say, but also when it'ssomething that affects people that deeply and it has that kind of such alike profound impact. You don't want to give them any like platform or givethem any like room to speak. You know what I mean like. I just don't, and Idon't think the people that, like stepen Miller, Carrson Nilson, I don'tthink they should be isolated from the consequences of what they're doing likeI honestly I I'm not for like, I think, calling them fastists or shouting,shame or protesting or what timand service, I think that's all perfectlyvalid as long as it's outside of like a policy making body, you know what Imean like I don't know. I came in here with big feelings. I was hoping youcould helpl me. So what exactly in terms of you're conflicted with whetherit should be a shouting match versus like whether there should be should orshould not be soing s in like a happy medium between the basically so I kindof feel like you have to pespect their platform and listen to them, which iskind of what I was thinking about with the NPR thing like theyere, like it wasan Atican American man and a KKK leader, and but they still found common ground,even though they had a that basic disagreement over fundamental humanrights. So, on the one hand yeah, maybe that works, but on the other hand,wouldn't it be better if you, if you could just shut them down like well.For me, it would be like trump administration, okay, yeah, likearchitects of policy, well see so here's here's. I guess where Iunderstand what you're saying so yeah, instead of like just like calling you today and just haningone side I mean, then the problem is you know that we don't have that likekind of discussion right, an there's, no ile democracy thing and all that Iknow all Democa. You know yea. I not that's not what you're saying, but itis interesting that it's hard and I think that there's a lot of there's acase, definitely to be made about how you know against democracy against.Well, no butmypses good were not ting, like you know, when president trump waselected. You know there's kind of this notion that you know kind of theforgotten people of America finally have a voice right, their perspectiveand all this frustration and like kind of in they had to keep evertingthemselves and now they're, just throwing it in everyone's faces andthen so. The problem is that they're frustratiedg in their front of likethis is finally we finally get a voice and all of a sudden we are xyndz andI'm not saying that they are they dont. No, I en with you yeah so like clearly,you can't just like put them in the corner and like not pay attention tothem right also, like can we afford to give them a voice when this many peopleare being like directely affected, like the negative consequences of thepolicies that these people are generating art like having well, wetalk about sep the whole thing with separating children with her familiesright, I think, yeah, all that's out the window. That's disgusting to thinkthat yeah that even happened and at I'm sure, a lot of people. I would like tothink the majority of people, regardless of whatsin right. No onedeserves that's what that's a Nin Part Os th issue, tat, so likein so yeah insome cases, and that's kind of the problem I feel like is that right nowwe are so poor opposite or at least the polar opposite science get talked aboutin the media. So much that when people sit down and really have a conversation,it's almost a shock to them. They say wow. I can really agree with someonewho's super super liberal right as someone who's really reallyconservative and Oh, my God, a you know like then that podcast I mean one ofthe crazy things was. You know. Darryl was saying that yeah IM Roger Killyn. I Hade a lot to Erean a lot and use Tley can Kay and, like youknow, it was just that that was like the only really separating difference,and I think that, unfortunately, with the new media and the way that thingsget tweeted out, even including o President Right, you know it's, it'sreally just back forth back forth and I honestly do not think we will ever beable to get to a point where we can really sit down and be civil as acountry and talk about things until we get the president that does not tweethim kind of feels a fire provoke yeah and I'm not saying he's not the onlyreason, but it doesn't help. No is if hot trying to be like civilized, andthen you have a president tweating about stuff like that. Doesn't everyonesays why do we have to Saeber whon? We have ANI he'sot. I will on that hat thesayit just say kind of as a last thing, because I think I agree with you. Ithink we're on the same page. Yes yeah. I thought that would be interesting. otalk about yeah, but the thing that strikes me about therelationship between Darel Davis and Roger Kelly is that Roger Kelly choselike he. He was basically tricked...

...contact. He was tricked into showing upto an interview with Tarel Davis. Didn't know he was black, came into theroom and he could have had his body Guard C, but he could. He could havelike taken him out. He could have just turned round and left, but he chose tosit down and kind of foster that relationship, and so essentially hechose to open himself to chaning his belief. I just don't see that happeningnow and I think that's a major difference as well. Don't need to see his identification. We don't need to shes an the doysyou're. Looking for Hes loing foryou can go by thisbusiness. I think it was yesterday apple release,their new, the Apple Watch series for oreadly, or they at least announce it,and I do not own a Smart Watch, I'm looking at you. I know you, I do an asmart. I is not it's not an Apple Watch, it's an LG style, okay, highlyrecommended. I don't have an iphone just for throwing that out there. SoApple Watch wasn't really on the table, but anywayn go ahead to you. So I havemixed feelings about. I was just curious about the watch mark becausethat they released three phones and they ran ary from like, like sixhundred dollars to you can go ath way up to fifteen sixteen hundred wot themost expensive model, but the watch is very fitness oriented. It can read yourheart and all this stuff and I guess they have some kind of like censors.They can detect it youre falling and you okay in paryouned help and they'llsend emergency services at' a this stuff, yeah, no th, that's one of theirnew. Like you know, you think you think, though, that Sorryi'll let you continue,but you think that if you were just working out it, it says that you'refollowing and you'd have like paramedics, twenty four seven juste tig anyway, the website says,fall detection. I was kind of reading and I was like you know, for I'm goingwit. This is if I had to go to a black tie event. I don't think I'd go with mySmart Watch. I have a watch because of people don't know I have a you knowregular watch, but I just feel like there's it just doesn't look. You know.Maybe I'm kind of maybe I'm cot behind the time snow, you're, obsolute, David,Jus, gotta Ge with it. But that's what I'm wondering like. I know we're goingto get to a point where technology's going to go nuts and were going toflying cars and stuff. I understand I'm not trying to be like we needid to theyou know, but watches are a jewelry thing and when you got rollex and allthis stuff, like I really wonder like, are we ever going to get to a pointwhere companies like Rolex never sell, watches anymore, because apples makingsmart lashes and everyone has to have one? It's just interesting, because Ifeel like we're really at a point where we are trying to digitize jewelry andI'm wondering just what you think. I mean we're predicting the future here,but you know yeah, I don't know I mean I, so I definitely so I like I said Ihave a smart watch before I got the spar watch. I was interested in one butI was like I don't know if I'll use it like, I had basically all the same. Iwas thinking all the same things, so I tought like it was like a twenty fivedollar one like really cheap ofsome, like kickstarter campaign. It doesn'tmatter what it was, but the point is, it was like very basic like all I cando is like rea text and like see who's calling me, and I at first I was like this isstupid, like I'm, never going to use this and then slowly, it turned intolike it's helpful to like be like. If I'm in the meeting or somewhere andsomeone's trying to reach me, it's hopeful to just be able to look at itit it's. I don't know it's less of like it's less intrusive, like if you pullyour phone out ind conversation, the other person's like you're, clearly notinterested, but if you just like quickly like look at your wrisk and tolook back well like backon the time talking to you, though, we're having acomfort, you stop me while we're getting caught, I'm getting cofey let'say you start ready and we talkd for three minutes and I'm like and youramble about something, and I look at my watch yeah, it looks like you'realready looks like they're bored yeah. It looks like on liter I got ta get isa that's where I thought you were going to go with the like black tie eventthing, because I feel like like stylistically. They can look fine, theycan look nice like you can get really nice expensive ones, yeah, okay, but I probably wouldn't wear it to ablack tie event, just because of what it like indicates, like it kind of shows thatyou're like ready to go. If something else comes up, you know what I meanlike you're, not fully committed to being there like Youyou feelk. You haveto stay connected. Well, it's like H, yeah, it's like having your phone right,it's like being on your fise, like literally having your phone, like justin your hand, but turned off the entire time like it. Doesn't it just doesn'tlook good so like I've converted, but also like there is a really nicefeeling at the end of the day when you take it off and it'just like you'retotally disconnected, I mean you're, not totally this going o think thats,you eever phone everything but you're not like at the deck and call of anyonewho decides to shoot you a text message. You know I mean like it's not likeKennisio can just be like Yo, and then I have to look at it because it couldbe something important right like Cani. I don't know if you're listeningo this, but if you are I'm sorry, thre're Goin t o the bus se that that's interesting, because forme, when I put my phone in the corner and flip it over right, I feel like I'm,disconnected right, you're saying that you don't you just have to take offyour watch and you feel disconnected...

...your phone can be like in your pocpetyeah. So it's an changes, your mind so like like last night, I was hanging outin my room I took my I was like. I was like actively in conversations withpeople, and I took my watch off and put it like on the little megnetic chargerthing and I had my phone literally it was. It was in my pocket right next tome. I was sitting there and I it was taking like ten minutes to apply toreply to people because I was not checking it like. I wasn't thinking tocheck it because I was like ill just I'll feel it if someone's trying to getit touch. So I don't know what that, like. That probably means that there'slike a psychological shift going on to, but I don't I'm not a psychiatristAIDEA. Do you think Smart Watches are the future r? Do you think it's just hathing that appole and other companies are trying to pushus tweet at us, andlet us know if you have any topics of interest that you want us to talk about,who consider them deal. I we're going to take a Brenk will be back afterthese messages. You will remove these restraint and leave this cell with thedoor open. What did you say? You will remove these restraints andleave this cell with the door open, tigten, those restraints scamigest Scub, and we are back Youre again with Nikand David. I got to come up with a better segue than that. I said thatlast episode to that's T at's, maybe 'just come a commeter anyway,we're moving on one more topic each and then we better guest yeap. So I knowtheir first very first episode. I talked about country and Wrat just toshow that I'm a cultured man, I want to talk abount a different kind of music.Okay, do you know marshmallon no marsh mellowi that DM or whatis 's, a d yeah?There's no w ith tend thatt's. Just an Oh okay, he's cool, that's es it yeah!So Marsianhallo we found out last year. Is this other? It's it's! This DJ CrisCom stock, like that's, that's who he is but he's been around since, liketwosand, we just found toat out in two thousand and seventeen because Forbeslike hit some like investigative digging about like who was signed towhich label and like who was producing. Is this whole thing before that? We hadno idea who this guy was and he's making like millions like H, he'srichhe's a big deal and I feel like people still don't, even though hisname's out there now like you, can literally just google him and his namewill come up. People still don't know who he is, and so they're kind ofriffing off that. So his whole thing is that you know how dashpunk has like thehelmets that they wear and I one knows what they look like right, yeah andthen you've got dead mouse, which I thought was pronone steain out five fora really long time, but his teat house got the MOUs sid a white Pan, Ta Hand Ehead anyway. Yeah markbellthis thing is this giant, basically a marsh mellow?It's like sylentrical Hi's got exes for eyes and a little smilin face, but soanyone could be onver right. So the other day I was on youtube an I wasclicking through and I didn't know who mar Mallit was, and there was a videothat was like Marciwall, O facte reveal, and I was like Oh shit like it's out,I'm going to find out who mersh mellow is, and I click on it, and it's like like really hype, video like all thesequick cuts and music and everything, and then he takes off e. The helmetwhateveryou want to call it and it was fucking will Farrell and the thought ofWolf arrel as like a DJ was hilarious. Like I couldn't stop laughing, Ithought it was really funny and then, like a week later, I saw another videothat was like marshmallow and vails himself as he accepts US awar orwhatever sly click on it, and basically he gets this award and he goes out onstage and he accepts the award and, as he's accepting the award, he takes hishelmet thing off again and it was Sean Menbis, and I was like it's kind of a cool conceptof that. You can just put anyone under this and have them do different things.I was like doing some digging. I was like who is this guy and I clicked on avideo and it was a video of Marshmell, I'm doing arib quotations here, but noone an see me so anyway, marshmallow doing like literally on American IngelWarrior like doing the entire thing wearing his biggest like, yellow helmet,that probably abstricts his lor white helmet. That, like AF, strikes hisvision, wow and he just did it and at the end, and so I'm thinking like first of that's, really cool like I'mcurious to see what they'll do if hey'll do anything else with that,because they can put literally anyone under that as long as it's the samelike build, but my question to you is: Would youwould you want that? Because that's like a trend for if I was a DJ, if Iwas an artist and yeah so like they're, like all these, like Dath Punk, allthese guys are making millions of dollars. Theyr theyr everyone aroundthe world knows them, but nobody knows who they are like. They could probablyjust walk down the street N. no one would say anything so like what likewould you want to have all that money and famand influence, but also thatlevel of anonemity or would that be like a dealbreaker for you honestly, if I was famous, I would want my face yeahbecause, like I think it's cool for people to knowlike no I'm doing this. This is me, but...

...also I don't know what it's like to befamous and I know hen. I hear all the time that, like I mean I would hate tobe able to not go to a grocery store without people be like, Oh, my God,Blah Blah Blah and so yeah like I. Maybe I would do that, but that's hard.That is hard. I mean if I was making the same amount of money and therewasn't brand. You know because we ere doing that. Like you're you're, a brandyeah marshmell, he is a brand wole mass ye terriper, it's not character yeah,and so there is still something that everyone can point to and there's kindof a satirical like. Oh, like oh who's, who's, it gonna be when he takes offhis mask Britn thing this time you know. The only thing I M woant to say is: IfI was a movie actor or if I was a injury artist or Yeat rock and rollwhatever I mean, I think the chances of me getting away with being able toWearybouo, though yeah. I think it's part of that Genra hat, maybe part oflike the obscurity that, like Wen a lot of people, I mean td yeah. Now I justit was interesting because it's like it seems like the best of both worlds likeyou've got all this influence and money but, like, like you, said, you're notgoing to stop at stores or like harassed or anything, but also yeah. Ifeel like I would want to be able to take credit for what I'm producing I wat putting out,because it's not like these people are, like writing, songs that people havegostwritten for them. It's like this is their work like this is what they'redoing ta creatines beat. Sometimes other people are helping, but theyrethey're doing it and so yeah they're getting the credit. The brain is Gointo e credit, but they're, not which is a weird like ychonomy. I don't know Iwas just. It was just really interesting. You can' actually find photos ofdathpup and deadmouse like what they look like online. That punk is actuallyspoiler, awert theyre. Actually it's actually two French guys and they theyquoted an interview. Saying like we don't we'd, rather people didn't knowwho we like didn't see us without our helmets on because, like they'reinterest, n the robots and they care about their music, but they don't wantto look at our faces like this. Isn't I don't care about who we are so it'salso kind of a way for artist sounds like to separate themselves from themusic and the fans ind like because artists get sexualized and like lookedat a lot like, I mean right, you're, an attractive artist and that's a bonuspoint and that's just not how going to happens if you're covered by Maspiantech ton you. So when we were talking about Kanye West, it was like well allthe stuff Kandy West does, but his music is like cool different right ifhe had a mess yeah. No on e De Lace, yeah. Also that's a good point. It alsoprotects them from like scandal or anything because, like unlons they'recaught doing something in their mask, no one's gonna know interesting. You will remove these restraints andleave the cell with the door open. I will remove these restraints andleave the Sol with the door open an do, drop your weapon and ldrop. Mywipon is my understanding that you have onemore. I do I do so. I feel like action movies, all right. Okay, I feellike action, movies, get a bad wrap, and I'm saying this because I haveshowd, you know people don't like actionmovies, we're talking about like fast emferos or no, I mean yeah, know okayayAl Ris, the feries, but have you seen the amazing spider man? I have yeah inthese movies. Like he makinspread event, you know, there's the plot. There's avillain, there's Ju t superpowers and there's a lot of action, because it'sthe action movie but thereare also elements of romance dealing with GrinSpiderman's case dealing with growing up maturity. Tough decisions, like youknow, so are we making the saction year between super hero, movies and actionmovies? That's not about superup envies, because I don't wantto argue thatFastan furioes, which I was just cure, yeah know yeah, but like it's, it'sjust an interesting. I know a lot of people that are like Oh E. I don't wantto go, see spider man, the avengers, because it's just a bunch of rightdrama like war I pop after yeah, but I mean I took my girlfriend to see.Infinityou were yeah and if you haven't heard this by now, stop batching thispodcast, if you know, want to turn it on or skip thirty seconds yesgin thirtyseconds, but at the end of infirty war, big, spoiler alert, okay, its like sixmonths after the fact the reates movie was released it, and so I should bespoil like everybody dies, onthose, okay, half the people die. have he woledigs like is OL er Hain Lik anyway, and Merian was bored. My girlfriend wasborht the whole movie until People Die Specifically Spiderman, yeah, Ironan, ty startand he's like he's juststart, Strano dilike, yeah scared, and then he just strivles up into dust yeahand there's feeling there, and I feel like, in my opinion, truthfully myfavorite thing about superhero movies...

...and even fasten. The furious is not theaction, but is actually the plot and the character, development and therelationships between the characters. Sommiy sense, it does so. My gut is t my to sents Ontiss, I feellike yeah. It gets a Bat Rab. I feel like people, don't like action moviesor think they don't like action movies, because their formuleg, like they all,follow a pretty it's a traditional. It's likea story ars been around for a really long time, but like ECAU, there's conflict and then there'sa villain and then meclimax and Hem, like all of that, so that it is for me Lae, but there'sno reason something that there's no reason that something formula can't begood like there's a reason it's around and alsolike you look at like outside of outside of cinema. It you look at like, like imagine,dragons are like journey or like all these bans and super formuleg, but likegood like so, you can still enjoy them like theyre. So I think people areconfusing the two. Maybe it's something that you know when you watch, I meanhonestly, there are there's really you coan draw parils between the amazingSpiderman and Peter parkers relationship with Gwensacy to a wrong colm yeah. The only difference is that I feel like in youknow: wrongcoms people, it's more relatable because t when they're nothaving these moments, they're going to work, they're living at home, rightdoing stuff that we do, but in Spiderman he's web swinging, and youknow like she's working at this like fake chemical oscorp thing, you know,eait's not really relatable, and maybe that's why people are like. Oh, youknow, because they can't like identify with it. Maybe and I its ISTinteresting. I just want to do PSA if you have a friend, significant otherfamily member, that loves action movies that is always trying to push you towatch a superhero movie particular try watching that Lepom and Sol see justindolge one movie. I guarantee you, you won't regret it. It's a good culturalexperience agreed yeah, so I think that does it for us, I meanwe'll still be on the show, but you know with someone else, take a short preak and we'll be backwith our guest. Welcome back to with Nick and David. Weare here. We have our guest today, David. Would you like to introduce ourguests? Yes, this is my great friend an thiss TI. Also great friend, Elisa letsus say: Hi Everyone so es sid is a Junor you're, a junior at the college.And what did you do last semester I actually studied abroad in London lastsemester at Kings, College, London Yeahswell? I was taking hard classesand dying in stress she as feeing tise potatoes in Scotlan. Yes, in Scotlansstrike in Ooso, MNY CSES didn't happen to that's right. You got all yourcrediygood deal, that's a good time great. So what did you bring in for ustoday? So I thougt it would be funny to talk about the dumb laws that are indifferent states. I don't know if you guys have seen these. There could be noactual narrit to this. That you ju think has a list alrigh stupid laws,okay, so OKA. So this is one: that's one of Thee, DOUB LAS for Ohio, it'sillegal for more than five women to live in a house because and okay. Sothe theory behind this is because it's a Bratel. You know I actually haveheard this one puy, someone at Dennison to one of my friends at tennison, toldme this, which is Indiana Oi Yeah Ohio, because Ihave a friend at Ballston wit,it Asyeah. So it's definitely a real but yeah FIMIDWESTISO. How does okaySelik soority houses yeah allrighwll? What about O Haen? You R Pogra yourprogram? There's a guy that lives with us one man there can be like Te, girls, rait's apivate college, like ourcollege, they still have to Amad. We still you tal, to abide my flaws Yojust because your private college doesn't mean your exempt from likeanyway, sorry Im, blownwy, all right. Well, that wason the first one. Oh, my God. Okay, I like this all right. This is also onefor Ohio. It is illegal to fish for whales on Sunday now where they madethis law an landlock state, so that Teg's tha question that clearlysomeone was fishing for whales on Sunday and something bad happened. Whydid they find and where did they find it wel? Is this like before Pangia Kin, oeven just learnwhat Pengia was last year? SOEs tyou? Don't Knowis ageology one one, I thinkyou'd still be laterlon literally talk to anyone Eah, but actually like. Why? That's do you know when that was made? Do youknow when that was made that Wa that's...

...got to be so likefifteen thirtyintshowyeah? Okay, also not a fun fact, but the agent can sent in Ohio wassixteen enwhat's. It nomally earefulsoas far as I know, I think, adifferent state by state- and I think it's like the age of consent is sixteenbut then sometimes like the age of like it varies. testend on what you'redoing I thin tru yeah rets agree that it's check that a tweet at US alsotalkin in federal trouble anyway, pical advicefor yeah we're notlegalIBIALL right. Sorry, let's see women are prehibited for Mori patent leathershoes in public Sooo, yeah pattent leather shoes. What is thatlike? What do you mean like shoes with leather? I assume? What's the differeneetween leather and patent leather e, just regular leather like now, patmother is special in some way. I don't know I'm Nota to bad well like if abrand makes leather and you have a shoe with theirleather right on it- is that they're taling Y probase, so we get that Lik Imean if GTTHAFRARHE has leather seats and youcarv a cut on a seat and Tame Tun into a shoe, maybe main Oson. That's likesaying you can't! No, that no, no, it would be like son. You just can't driveFororiti Sin Ohio. Why? Because that would be patentleather, but you can drive a car with weather seats at's, not, but you can'ta hat in lotheir shoes, just winning just women ive yeah. This is all right, so so rightnow, what we're looking for is a bunch of women all wearing pat moather shoesand a house tegether fishing for whales on a Sunday and getting fish drunk,because it is also a Legan to get a fish drunk to fish, get Druk. What all right. Now you couldn't put a fishin like a container of some sort of ut. That'sreally ats image. But if this were a visual thing, I would have a graffic ofa fish and like a peer bottle right now, but that's not that's not possible. Soso, if you put like a few drops in things would still definitely godownhill. You guys you have to use one of those like fairfish, that's going todie anyway. You don't you don't. Maybe so. I've been kayaking in severallakes and rivers in Ohio are too cool and go no h' HAP there there's a whereF, you can ci nking in the Lake districts and northern England Oanyay,where you saying th. Well, okay, when I went kyaking, it was a great dayand there was like birds, chirping everything and all of a sudden. You hadthis music and you heard people going yeah likeyou know, and I literally turnthe Qarner and there's all these guys: Girls, chugging beers on in inner tubes,floating down Brigper, and so maybe, if you drop the beer or whatever in my otof fish, because they're fishing rivers, maybe they get drunk, maybe that's whyit's illegal! Well, a fish! Okay! So, let's see a fish friest o Yul, so itwould die, but we had another sea creature that it's not like a dolphin.They don't have gills right, th y right through their blowhole so like if theyinjested don' know liquor or something so y whuld happen. My theory is thatthey had really drunk and hen. They immediately die right after the fishyeah like if you put it in in a body of alcohol, fresh tresh, water, alcohol only organic right, exactly no but likeit would get really drunk and then it would die because it had alcoholibictrous anyway, here's another fun one. No civilarrests may be made on Sunday or on the fourth of July. What is a civil arrestlike we just talked about Sability David. That's a cordial like a restling nosnonow, okay. So this is a clike a little bit of a different turn, buthave you heard of the civilians arrest? Yeah? I always think that's odd. Canyou is that a real thing, as far as I know like if you're in a situation andlike someone's clearly breaking the low, could be like as a civilian arrest youI don't know what you do after that, but like theyre in presumably call onactual yeah, I don't know, maybe that's supposed toget you outom. If you like, take them and train them up, it doesn't count askidnapping because Hou like well. That was gin, be my questions like you.Could you just say and you're under civilian arrest, but then like they canjust leave yeah it there's? No. It's really weird wait so like I doknow that like, if maybe it means like if there's investigation going on andthey found someone, they wait til Monday because Sunday, their church,let's not Forgiv, mebe, that's o Mi forkunto. Why they're all committingcivil crimes right? Let's Wek, I didn't know that. No, I'm not sayingPeop, don't actually do that. Yeah...

Wellly, but I'm sure crimerike grows upon fourth of July, like people shooting fireworks and stuff our fireworks legalN. my I think, they're legal and I don't think you can buy them in Ohio.I think Youi go somewhere, definitely legal in Pennsylvania, because everytime I drive here from home a way along the border, what Dyou want. So I thinkit must be that Llegal to buy Phantom fireworks if you're listening, we willgladly take Pakersit notafanof fireworks. I hate when peoplelike I get the fourth of July. I get new years agait Christmas, like allthese holidays right, but when you are shooting off fireworks at two in themorning on, like a Tuesday go home, go to bed you're, wasting your money. Well,Lot's, not forget that they were originally. Let's ask day or this David.You know, hat fireworks were originally used, Forit Ishis! Is it in the US? Do you want tocat wellknoww? They were invented in the United stigs, China, China, Ohyeah, but they were. It was like a form of warfare like the fourth of July,like fireworks were used like they aimed them an British ships to set themon fire like they were not supposed to be a celebratory, then yeah, here'sanother one that makes sense but its definitely outdated. It is consideringhe fence to open an umbrella on a street for fiear pooking horses, ivechanged from Ohiota just in general, in the United States, so spooking horsesyeah, what Jus, spooking or like scar, which is fair, imbellas s really yeah did'thorss are Afrid ofUpros and everything e, so you're iding horses ton. So do you have to did youhave to get an educationor a class at any point about like how horses, like think or what they're Teya? How did youknow that they're afraid of what are you doing for ranparting on the job youjust rid in the rain? Even like O Te Horse? Yeah? Oh Yeah, Oh yeah, theamount of there's a quote I like, or something saying, that's like you know,you're, not a true writer until you've fallen off classic, ok, very true andhave you fallen off? Oh yes, Manya time at someone time I went over a jump and I'v stayed up too long and is rolled inSoer et Strai on the horse's neck, and then the horse stopped is the worststyle, usually pretty good, usually pretty good. I was in a show once andthe whore the joke is pretty small. The horse stopped right before the jump,but I kept going. I landed right between them jump and the horsees hovs.He stopped, though he didn't move sweetest Gy car, let's he dod yeah. Iwod that horse for years. Wy heard that, like a horse's kick is like Ohyah,really Dawpretty Goodo. So another thing you told Ye to remind you aboutjuoh yeah driid. I had a geat story, fror Ature, I think it's funny, but soI went to Majune. This was kind of the first trip, the first time I traveledby myself, and so I decided to do one of berkseys walking tours. If you don'tknow about these. Basically, it's a free app you download and you candownload his like all these different tours for so many places most aroundmostly around Europe. A D and the UK- and you had you dongle them, so you canhave them offline, which is really nice. So I did one of these in Majorina. It'sjust a city walking tour and I came across this. This place its kind ofthis alley way and when I say Ali I do really think of something dark and verythreatening. This was a well very nice. Looking Atl, you know I hang out therrebook there, but apparently so you know, Rith Stevesis tacking in Myye. He says: Okay along this alley way, there's a door. It isvery unmarked, it's just a door and there's little buzzers next to it. Ifyou buzz one of these, you can buy some cookies from a nun. Now it's importantto prevoses. I speak! No Spanish, except you know, Noablo a spenual andso riksees tells me all right press the button that I walkeder across the door.I found it eventually. I came back I pessed about this indulches, whichapparently needs cookies, O right Yaand. So you know Thi non answers and talksto me in Spanish and I'm trusting rix pes completely here. He tells me whatto say in Spanish, so I said something and the door opened. So I walk in andit's this a very dark nunnery there's just a Starca and no life on just TisUstyou know the movie. That's coming up called the nun. Oh, it's like a horror anyway, w yeah,Oh yeah. This was definitely not my Sparto sympoms, but you know I walk inRikto. You says it's okay! So clearly you must be right. Wai Way you walk in!Oh Yeah, you look, it Hea told me he goes all right, so you'll walk in andyou have to walk down to the little courtyard and then out- and you findthis little turntable like Lazy Susan Syle, so I walk owalk outside in thisCoryar back into this other door and there's a curtain with a turntable solike so you can't see the nun and you know she hear me and there'slike a list of cookies and she's. Like talk me in Spanish- and you know all Itits all toust and you'l, like Sarry Isi, like French, coming out ther toyeah, like whatever thi other time or,...

...and so I bought whatever the cheapestcookie was. But you put your money on the turntable turn it and then sheturns the back around with your change and your cookies and it so you you notknowing any of the language. You followed an audio retord Anto, a reallydark, nunnery off of an alley that you had to like buzz to get in and had areally sketchy cookie transaction with a Valu as this getcyon cookie. He justlet you back out like you, just walke ust leave really good. They were. Itried a little bit just because they weren't Yegan. I just tried a littlebite, but they were, they were good. They weren't like anything to writehome bout and Itas funning after you know, yourcontinue, walking and ses as like, and if you didn't do this, you can stillwet the thing. Co hes down the street in this shop. Ias Ike man o Hwan tothink the nuns are paying that guy o Waoh yeah s even nons, you didn't see the person geing, thecooking, so ul just be a dude like wazard of osstile back there I ricksteves would get in series, go brick steves day, yeah yeah. I think he get.He Wun get called out my theory s that it's the baker that' Songi the samecook, hes down the street. His like son is like behind that curtain. Yeahpipping his product, that's so spar, but that's cool, because now I mean youdo that for the story. Oh Yeah. What e're saying right now like Yats, socool, that's interesting! He also. I mean that was a good audio to her to Ireally enjoyed it because it did take you all around and I even sat by thisTuro shop that was kind of up a street like hop a hidden street alittle andyou knowshe's like this, is where all the locals go, and I do have a friendwho loves it. Matrid and I told her- I got churs and she's like Oh. Do you goto this shop? I te ca she's like that's Tu like that's the Goodsho, that's thereal one, yeah so ha totl IAWAT. I was in Stree Lonka lastwinter and they were like. I was got a like a guidebook and it was like go tothis place called a rote shop. I got some great rotie and I lik quilty. Ilook for it, so it means different in Cilaca, it's like a thick kind of breadlike in with coca, that's kind of like non but like a little better, but in the Caribbean. It's like a likea kind of round phericl Burrito, it's thethese different thaces, but an whereyou are, but it was like go to the Rota shop and I was like great I'm going tocheck it out and I was hoping for that experience and I went I got to like thecity and literally every like other shop wascalled like the Roti shop or like a Roti store like shot of Roti. I waslike. I have no idea what I'm doing so. I'm glad that work out for you yeahyeah. I feel like it's hard to find those hidden gyms when you travel welll,I feel like you did really find a lot of hidden gems. What you when I wasLikn your instagram, like did you use? How did you find these places because Ihonestly reck you made itself? Was It really aw right? Because you made itsound so easy that when I actually when I mest to London, I was like well DheyVid, just wont to Sitri Cominnations Yeah, like I went to, I accidentally,went to a tri, Yihogti, Wasa club and there's this redcare outside and there's no bemcer at the door, and so like some guy had justwalked in and we were like cane come in. He was like yeah come on ance we walkin and it as a lot of stripper hope. They e need to pay Ho. Just Valida thateverything David has told me like. I can't make fun of thim anymore. Ayoucan accident a tly. That's the thing that wafor me like it was. It was onein the morning and we talked about this in London, a lot of people. It was aSaturday, and so everyone gets the clubs and the bars are popping Monday,Tuesday, Monday, allways, Refrendi, and then Saturday, it's really not that, then you can still find like the crazystuff, but like it's not as popular like Popan, you know yeah, and I wastalking by coworkers about this they're like no yeah like people, just you know,and so we wanted a place to drink because we had a long day andeverything was closed. Even on, like the Goin, Google and they'd say: Ohthey're, open till ten that the guy was like no we're shutting down, and so wereally just wanted to drink, and even like Tesco, like these grocery stores,with thes Yeah E, I really want to drink, and so this bar was open and itwas a bar and huge area. And then there was like the Strip club and my friendwent to explore. The other part came back with a huge spile of his face andhe was like wer like what he's like. There's a strip clubing there weerelike fit Waus, really yeah. It was nuts, that's so funny,yeah everything! That's one thing I didn't realize ow London is that everyou would think for a huge city. You know all night, every night party iseverything closes like Alevon, maybe like. If you want to drink. I know thatone of the first nights we were there I want to see it was a week Oday night,so it was probably like a Tuesday or something and on the weekdays you knoweverything's closed around eleven, and so we were walking and it was a biggroup of us and this guy. who was the Bouncer for this? What weassume was a bar club or something he's like Hewas, like all you guys like,come in Comin Com in I'll, give you free shots and so we're like all right. So came. We were the only people inthis club and then...

...and then, like four Dutch people camein, and so it was just us and the nuch people in the club, and I have a groupToto and r friends on instagram and yeah, and it was funny because myfriend and I later went back to that same club and it was like absolutelylit. There was so much happening ther when I was in Scotland which nakeyou're going there. I Hah Yokay, where in Scotland are you going Edan broughtup and ewhere? Am I recommending you to eat Bik Potato Sho, literally whatnpotato shop? Okay, Wel you're going to be there for how long semester monts.So you will be able to find this Javis trying to Gete Itto, go to he Pasino Oo.SEETHOUGH! That's another story ye her, but there is a club there and it's setup like it was the same story. We walked there and they were. They wereasking for five pounds at the door, and so my question was well how many peopleare in there and HEU looked at his little counter and he was like. I thinklike at least three hundred it was like okay, so we all put five pounds we wentin and it was empty. There was like a there were people there, but it wasjust really awkward and whatever, but I then went on a Thursday and it wascrazy every it was like a dungeon thing. The each floor you go down is adifferent theme hum, and so they had like thatight in Scotland Yeah it wasnuts. I don't know what it was good. It wasn't called one thing but like youwould go one thing, an be like tecto musing down another floor like wrap andit teems to be different. They had like a Los Angeles like vintage style. Youknow I have found like I do not like clubing. I Hate Gointo, the clubs,because it's always like young people. I feel like you've just gotten legalenough to Drim Rit Lik. There asst been a few places that havebeen really good.I didn't go to that one in NBRO, because I was with my mom, but I wentto Manchester to visit a friend and we went to a club like that. It was likethree levels and it was pretty easy. It was hard to find the different level solike the first level, was a little easier to find the staircase to, butthe higher you went, the harder it got and it was kind of like a differentvibe on each floor was really good. I would definitely lo I would go back andgo clubbing an Manchater there's a clearly I'v ever gone clubbing in theactual Ell France, but that we're not going to talk about that now. That'llbe another time, but I wasn't Nash. I want to say twoyears ago Nashville and there was a club like bar restaurant thing, and itwas like three levels in each level: an different live music OOO, my music wiveMusi, oits, Nashfol Ers, it's not hard, you vcan, literally just pulls them offthe steet be like want to play another Ik sure. So that was there, but likethat, I really concept us. It's really Biga, they do the UK and I guess EuropeI mean y. They just they have a lot of fun with because you know alcoholis notthis kind of like formitden fruit and SI yeah. They really. They know how tosell and it's expensive and younow. You can wear patent woather shoes. WheherGowe can also live together. So with that, so you I was bout, yourInstagram, you travel a lot. I do I travel and ive long about that and myexperience is trying to find Vegan food all over the globe to so. If you'reinterested in following that it is at voyaging Erbahore, not cardibore,bopurefor, it's a really good instagram. You should check it out and yeah we have to go. I swear we graduateWELLLL have to go travels. Let's do it, I'm pretty sure it don't. I could bewrong about this, but I'm pretty sure the euros are the year we graduate sothe whet the Heuros is that it's like the world come, but just European teams.The point being I could get my soccer fix it and we pick go. Hang out someerein Youro right right, because so inson right. I got it that no matter where weare on nup at one game, Sooryea football, Freyes, yeeall right. I thinkthat's going to wrap up our show. So thank you will I so for coming on.Thanks for having me yea, you guys have listen to Liste Nick and DAS. Our thirdepisode Ye're sticking with this yeah we're were we got business cars we'recommitted. We business cards. Tell us tell your friends about us and you wantbe on the show letter tell us now, because we have like a muck out. We dohave a long way in list which is shopking, but also you're. Gonna haveto Heado leae another one yeah that Willpis you on Iscy for same time. NAXTYEAR S. So again we are on twitter and facebookwith Nick and David, but at Nick David Show- and I ckdivit David Show- Damn are O Gonno get an Instagram San we aregoing NA, gets gonna get an intagram. I want to take a picture with every guestyeah we'll have to like photoshope an Antrilso. Do like an intagram lie for alittle bityeahyeahif. You were interested in a youtube. 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