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With Nick & David

Episode 2 · 1 year ago

S2E2: Race

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Pop quiz: what do micro-transactions, social media, ethical consumerism, and wealth have in common? Tune in to find out! Bonus points to anyone who can pick out the background noise bleeding through into our not-so-soundproofed recording studio.

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...fortnights, a big thing with that rightyeah. So what is my better weapons? Sonethin? What is available in your fee,but have you ever by anything so FIFA, based, I mean it's like everything else.Right like you, can use my pertransactions to get a leg up quickly or just faster, so you don't have to so.PIFA has coins and points and coins you can use in the market to buy players,items things like that and by items I mean like training like experiencingmad te players or like contracts, and things like that and then points function, basically the same waythat you can redeem them in stories for packs and things like that. They'rekind of interchangeable, I'm not entirely sure what the staction isright, but so microtransactions in Fefo, basically like you, can buy coins orpoints in order to buy packs with higher power players. And do you knowwhat you're getting hin the pack or is it a random rule? It's usually a random.I mean you know what it could wright. You know like the quality you're goingto get tbut, you don't know which player or anything most of Ohay andhave you ever boughtn anything I have, I think twice in my entire lifepurchase pacts and they were both for they were both like. I just bought anew game and I needed to like get on the same level as my friends. So Iwould I bought like alite player packs just to MIS, you get wat, you won it er,you just kindof the first time I got a legendary Tiego Maradonna, which isridiculously good luck and the second time I got now nothing. I wanted okay.So I'm talking about this because, like I said earlier, so there's been there's a growing. I guessyou could say epidemic of you know, kids buying these games playing thesegames, so I might use pefood for that and not realizing how much moneythey're spending when they're purchasing these microtransaction, stuff right and so the kingdom had these game people comingbecause they wanted to just it wasn't like a you know, trial. It was just ahearit right, and so the house of combons brought the bin. They were like.We just want to learn about. What's going on, we can try to work somethingout that kind of thing, and so the parliament asked the EFPI gamesperson. You know like what is this stuff of fornignthand like were these loopboxes and the epic game spokesperson was like wedon't call the blut boxes. We look at as surprise mechanics, which was bluwup it its like a big meme. You can google it because it's so funny,because the only surprise you get is having your bank account rigts, GoinIraqi, with th m. You know, and the Bull philosophys that you know youspend more money, so get an advantage of the game and it literally has no outside value andit soesn't like Thefa because hit released the game every single year.It's e can't transfer over the rigte. You have the same people spending thesame money every year right and so then they asked the EFVI Games guy. Theysaid you know: has any research been done in psychology like you know? Howoften does t e frequent player by microtransaction stuff sure and the EPIgame spokesverson said you know we could we consider that commerciallysensitive information is typically not shared? Of course it's not sharebecause wthey're literally using psychology. U Know you get a box and itopens up with like Christmas. You know confetti like thes, all these like cooleffects and everything. You know they're literally slot machines,because you don't know what you're Geo right, and so you know they basically are not saying anything. Youknow theyve brought into random people to just kind of blow it off yeolbecause they obviously thes companies recognize it's a problem. You know, and the problem that I have with it is that it's really tarnishing the video gameindustry in that like when I grew up. We had nomicrotransaction stuff. Until maybe you know sixfifteen sixteen, seventeen yearssort right and now, like this last...

...summer, like I did some freelance workand did some tex stuff and people's homes on the neighborhood, and I met kids of these families and, likethis one of the people I worked with, she was like yeah. My son spent ninehundredlar onfortnight last month. That's Ai Sai Take my card off theaccount, but he still plays like there's not like this. You know I spentnine hundred dollars yeah, I would be like forget the whole.Everything would be out like my parents. Would you know what I mean, and so I know you play video games yeah, butI'm wondering, like you know, politicians bring this in andthere's all there's a heated debate about all sorts of stuff on video games,but right now like what are your thoughts on this, because my concern isokay, you got the UK parlomit coming in trying to set the record straight. Youknow in Belgium they straight up banned all microtransaction stuff, but I'm worried about in like the US. Ifthe government steps into control video game stuff, I'm worried that it couldbe detrimental n that they might then say.Okay, if you make gee games, you can't have such and such content aside fromsaying or I cut the microtransaction stuff, so I'm curious what yourthoughts on that whole. Do you hear about this? Come up and you're oanotherstuff, like not really, I mean so they're there before we, I talked aboutthe government or whatever theyr two things I mean just to like clarifyright that, like there are some professional people that play thesegames like ranks players but IG. The fast majority of people are playingjust to have fun right and when you, when you include microtransactions at a certain point, you can't play the game, especially ifit's an online game and you'reodeaing with other people who are usingmicrotransections. Basically, you have to buy them to keep up right and, ifyou're, someone who's just playing for fun. That makes the game unplayable ifyou're not willing to to spend that, and so I don't know I would just worryfrom from these companies perspecnd. I know they're thinking about like we'regoing to make money off everyone his buying these games and who is a regularplayer on that, but, like I would worry that you're turning potential newcustomers away, because anyone who just starts playing video games and ist juststarting to get into it. Like the reason I don't spend a lot, I think I'dspend more if I had an xbox for a longer period of time but like when Igot it my freshman er year at college. I wasn't right, you know what I meanlike. I wasn't expecting to have to spend more money in the game, and soevery time I saw a opportunity for many transaction. I was like fuck that, likewhy like, why would I spend more money? So I think I think, there's a chancethat they're losing a huge temographic here which is interesting. I don't knowso you're worried that they're going na like if the government steps ineregulated it's so wai, so we have the ESRV sure right, and so that's like the what's the movie thing and the en moviepictures Yeah Yeah. So it's a rating system for Video Game Sha at etm rightand they comic how of Doin Hollywood ar like Hey,listen, we're going to SELP, regulate right, we're going to make sure videogames are cool and all that, but there's the a lot of the people on theboard of EA R. on the Board of the ESRB, interesting tell me why that's rightthere there's o Neiiv, I not you know, and the ESRV's been constantly saying:Hey like from people saying. Can you please? Can we change something you know so Ican set it on the back of the game. Saying like you know, e foreverone orwhatever tea like Blood Gore, and then they write little lirers like lootboxesyeah. No parents don't know what the hell loo what that means. But if youwrote like slap machine or gambling right, I promise you popl like Ol. MyKid is not playing that game, yeah right and so I, but at the same time like for me like I just I feel likepolitician. So like I mean Oi, you know...

Donald Trump said he spoke out againstviolent video games and retributed gun violence to vine, O Thosei, which is atotally other topic and not to get into there's been other example. TNO UTIT isessentially a Slovish Tanan, gambling, legal and a lot of the country. I justfeel like a lot of politicians and I might be wrong, but I've tried to findyou know research, but I there's not a lot of politicians whoeither play video games or have experience with like the knowledgeabout it. Yet maybe that generation is coming up Lik, so I mean a lot of thepoliticians are older onmen, who just don't I've never had that chance, likeis a different generation yeah. It's really interesting, though, like whatwould you say what would you think of I mean? Do you even care about theindustry enough? I guess wait till Itt Lation on it, yeah I'Mi'm, gonnaReaykul, you first like it. You buy this game, Yeah Fefa, sure, but nickevery year, and to get the new roster you have to buy it again right, that'scrazy! I haven't bought it this year for that Wai. How many pepus have youhad one? No, no! No on on it. I mean! No, I'm sorry like have you ever boughttwo consecutive like hi. Do you get Feva, eighteen and nineteen? Yes, whatwere the differences between those two Ames asize from the roster right? So the Ross I mean obviously yeah rosters,updated there is like career mode or not career about whatever the story iswith Alex Hunter he's like the poster boys you get to play as like up andcoming player like Mako decisions aboutmanagement. So that's the main thing, but other than that there were't I meanthere was some some game play smoother and like it like CGIS, better but likethere weren't that many differences in Gameplay, which is why I haven't boughtthe two thousand and twenty they just. They need to charge t they. I don'tthink they should charge sixty. They just do that, and now it's thirty. Igot t because I I lely cause. I thought the last two. I got an offer popped up.forall. You know that was like you can get the twenty for thirty ars, becauseyou're, loyal or whatever so they're really trying. I mean, I think thattellss lik value of the production of the GA yeah I MiG not going all overthe place, but not tell me about Lik, think. I think that I would supportthat right because it's a predatory like you're, using like gamblingmanipulat ive psychology on younger people were still developeike. That'sjust seems preditory to me, so I think I would support that yeah and honestly,like I think, that's what ultimately needs to happen now, but I just like like if that were to happen. I think it wouldalso bleed into other sections, and then you have the whole problem withlike what kind of content can game developers create? What kind of storyShari tell ibout being you know super censored like China has same Bato Games. We do a lot of them.They're not allowed t like there's just band but take the SPADO games that wehave here in China, theyre literally parts and segments and lines likedeleted, that's crazy because they go through on and say yes, no whateverright, I mean, I think you Callo duty is baned. Ther are steps between freemarket and like sens or everything, though I hope so I don't know I justyeah, so I thought it was interesting is really interesting. I Know Yeah Huh, I that's really huh genuinely wow lik. When I watch thedebates yeah I mean I don't. I don't want jo seeing there being like I'mwatching them, but right whenever someone says temanes like I literally Ilike feddrop EFOR, I don't pay attention to to. I pay attention to it,but I like go nuts when Sur, because I want to know you know like LovTenthingand, you know, and it's it's interesting like ElizabethWarren has also said. Bio Ito Games need to be banned for Walmart. We needto get rid of this stuff and I've been like you know, that's my fersonalfamily yeah. It's like no, you know whatever it's so I just like. I guess I'm excited for the nextgeneration right s hopefully will not...

...also just be then the future also old, Shart man whoare just well- and it's like, like you've, seen the facebook Harios wherebasically Mark Sucervert, is explaining the Internet to senators exactly likeits because they just don't get it. Yeah, Huh, okay, yeah, really coolmeyeah with that, but I'm gonna jump into my topic. Foram. One of my topics, butbefore I keep going, I want to tell anyone listening at this point that youshould strap in, because this episode might be a little longer, but I thinkthat Correcty, if I'm wrong, I think Dhave and are both feeling it right now.So we're going to Ak a good one, yeah, it's gonna, Bgis Gonta, BA good one,all right. We had to get back in the GROUVE yeah. It's I took a minute, I'mnot six sitges away from the eggs. I have space to think you right we're notlike pressed up against each other anymore. Okay, all right! First thing I want to talk about. Haveyou heard of the circle? We're not talking about the shape right?No, not the shit. Give me I'm on Hanr. What is it about? It's a reality show on thatflix there's it'salso al. You mentioned it dinner. Yes, there's a book not directly related, but there's abook about Social Media and, like digital presence, called the circle.That's really good! My parents made me read it and I actually really liked it.So I'm putting that out there as a recommendation signifilacs this seriesbased on kind of it's like loosely inspired by, I think so, essentially,and I'm only on episode five, but I think I've got enough to talk about it.So essentially it's a reality show there are eight contestants and thatnumber kind of changes new people are introduced throughout the season andsome people leave. But basically each contestant is locked in a differentkind of isolated apartment in the same building competing Foron, a hundred thousanddollar cash prize, okay kind, ofs, and so they can only communicatethrough what they call. The Circle, which is this kind of like speciallycreated social media platform for the game and TNO is the object, is to get out ofthe object, is to be the last person in the came and to be the last so thasstaying in exactly so I'll. Explain Otoi keep going so the circle is thiskind of social media program, but it's very limited as to what you can showother people, so you can only piy at first when you first start you can onlyupload one photo and write a profile and then you can start doing saddusupdates and then you can add another photo and like people who win minigames in the show can ade like videos or thing. So it's like very carefullycureated and there's very limited interaction. And then you can alsogroup hat private message O, but only through text- and this is a side note. But it'spresented as though it's speech totext on this show. But if you looke closelyor even if you just keep watching, there's no way the speech text is thatgood? So I googled it and it's making firm that it's literally like a bunchof people in other rooms like translating everything that people sayinthe text in a livetime which is hilarious to think about. So every so often on the show. All thecontestants are asked to rat each other and the tap to people. Nothing happensto the bottom, but the top two people get blue check marks and they becomethe influencers. So like social media like instagram orwhatever, and so the influencers get a special dinner N, they get to go into aroom not like not. They can't see each other, obviously hut. They can talkjust one on one and take another cintestant to Kak off to block from theshow and so and whoever whoever gets kickedoff gets to meet pick one person to meet like face to face and talk to, andthen they get to leave a video message that the next day is played foreveryone in the circle, and so here's the thing- and you might have picked upon this nout because you're only showing a few videos and everything'staxed based. No one has any idea who you are. You can be anyone you want inthe show, so there are hell of people catfishing each other right now, whereI'm at so there's there are. I mean there are a lot ofpeople you just using fake photos like that they find online m. almosteveryone is lying about. Being single, a lot of them are either married or incommitted relationships, but they're...

...afraid that they say that N, no onewill talk to them or they'll bote them out it'buddy yeah, so you got like Karen just got voted off on watching,but she's playing as a like a basically she's kind of a bigger lesbian womanfrom New York, she's pelling as a scinner woman in her Sadeis his photosshe just found somewhere there's a guy named Adam Er, Alex who's playings,aguded, Adam and he's using again he's like married. Like recently marriedhe's, got two cats he's really nearty he's playing he's Gott found this guysprofile. It's like he's, gorgeous and 's playing as him. There's a woman Sean doing the samething my favorite right now is: There is a maybe two thousand a thirtysomething African American Dude Maye seaburn playing as a girl named Rebeccausing his girlfriend's photos and videos. Oh my good! So everyone's just straight up,cafishing each other yeah and, like I said, New People turn outpeople geve voted off, and so I guess it's a really interest. It's kind oftrasy. It's edited like a Korean game show, but it's so entit thing, and so I guess my first question is:Would you go on thes show. So is the point this o Mak Shu thepoint in this show? Basically, because you can its just tet, you can be who you wantand like you're, trying to make everyone else like you throughthis Limin right man, some people are being themselvees and some people arebeing people that they think other people will like right. Yeah I mean that would honestly be areally cool class activity, Yeah Lik, a comedian class yea think here'sthing.Even though people you know just hurt people right help, but that's reallyinteresting because I would yeah. I should watch that because youknow I am in my world career stuff, looking at like how people carrythemselves ompanies represent themselves and stuff an need to be sofar from the truth and either people maybe know that they eccept whaterthey're, like they just kind of sworry yeah. You know that's reallyinteresting, so how many seasons are there? You there's only one right now.I think this is a US versun, so there might be other like British. Are People being honest getting kicked or so it'sinteresting SOE. I've only seen three people kicked off so far. Okay and thevery first person I get kicked off. Was this one inamed Alana Alena forget Itink Alanna and she was genuinely a like Blonde American bombshell.INSTAGRAM model whohave been offered like a splot lof playboy centerfold,and everyone thought she was fake because she chose to come on by asherself, so they voted her off immediately and then she got to leavethem a video message and everyone was like, ah fuck, like weve messed, thatup right o the second person voted off was similar kind of thing. Everyonethought he was a catfish because he was a professional basketball, player, nameINANTONIO, and so all s photos he's like working out or in like Barcelo,you not ton playin the US play in Europe. So professional I don't know,but everyone tiuge was a cat fish and theyvoted him off. And then you got to leave he message and was like Y'allfucked up and theyw're. Like Oh shit and then the third person they vutitoff Mercedes turned out to be a cafish, so there they're like one for threeright now, which is really interesting. Well, it's like I mean that's like ontinder like stuff like that on facebook or Instagramn, you people follow you yeah and e, like bots orwhatever, and like like, I had ive had like Instagram, follow requestsfrom people who, like I mean it's totally, has snapped in in somebodyelse, and it's like a model or something and it's like you, knowwhatever and then I don't even think twice: Ai Im likeyeah, no, that's fam, threy, just right and no part of Mhe ever wonders like Imean in that case you know, but I also know on tender. Isn't there like? I know there's like measures to preventthis, but isn't there like one in a hundred swipes or somethingyou'll find a fake? I tbet it's more than that, not like a troll account,lrt like a shark guy or something just...

...like a like a someone wos, not realyeah, someone trying to pretend like there's somebody else. Yeah, probablyyeah, which would you n not ontender, but in this game thats he said you goon it. Would you play as yourself? Yes, but I would I would probablyamplify right stuff. Would you slas? Would you tell people you're in arelationship? So, okay, I have a question yeah. If the point is to bethe last one on the show, then don't why do they? Why are they like? Oh Man,we voted off thic, almost playewiy model and basketballplayer. I don't, I don't think they're upset because they voted them off. I think they'reupset because there are. They know that theyre catfish on the game they'retrying to get rid of them first, you know what I mean wait ti this. Does this show say: okay,guys, there's two CET fishing people in the now, but it's pretty obviou. Like Imean if you're, if you can't see anyone you're going to assume that someone inthere is, but you want people to like you, yeah Ik, okay, yeah Yeahi'm over thinking, I don't know who the other people arethot like it can be. Someone saying they'reme with all my pictures, but it could be like Morgan is one of the things arearly relationship status, yeah yeah, it's like you have to its, probably notbecause when you look at social media, if your profile picture is with yoursignificant other right. Well, okay, it's weird, because you know what not alot of people follow me. I insogram my asse SAR shit, but I follow all thiscar stuff and whatever. But when I post a picture of like something in theworld really cool like a car or a ocean or something I get like fifteen likes, which is like you know,Adiocre for be, but then I post picture with Morgan and then so I get seventylikes anin more more ougo set me as yeah right, but I know for a fact thatwhen your you know like when you meet someonethat you might be interested in and you go on that you've stuck them and you'relike oh shoot, they have a Wa Tik, another right, and so then you're like, I think. Maybe you get more likes whenyou post a poto with someone else just because Youve pat their whole network,so it depends on if the group- I guess in that instant, because no one, no nose, Iht, tatser yeah, there's no like Oly, Look So cute, I'm right vot forthem. No, it's like it's like I caniofyeah. I can't talk to them orwhatever yeah, probably what it, because I make things complicated righton social media, yeah yeah. It's a really interesting show concept, and Ithink also I mean this is a very small thing, but I think that theyre there'slike I don't know that it's intentional, but there's this kind of trendthroughout the show, especially with all the catfish, where they're like itseems like they're trying to portray social media as this negative thingwhere, like you, can't trust anyone and people are dishonest. You know that.But I also think that they're making a point, maybe accidentally about thebenefits of social media and like people who don't feel comfortableadmitting who they are and their own community and rear life, can just go onand express themselves and be who they really like. I think that it's adevilage sort- and I don't know that the show is trying to say that, butit's coming across right, but yeah, it's just. I got addictedlike literally Monday, someone showed me the first episode and I'm already onepisode. Five and they're like an hour long, so I'm like blazing through isespecially with all the other work. I have yeah, but it's kind of addicting,and then I was just talking about it more with someone else, because I thinkI'd be really good at it. I think I goon it myself and just kill everyone,but I think yeah. But would you enhance yourself? A little probably I mean you'have to I feel like I mean you know when you go on a first date or if youtalk to somebody that you're trying to like you, don't have to like share this butlike if you've ever like, I feel like I mean I should I have if Iwant to admit I meet people on like a first date, I'm maybe more nice than usual rightfor whatever, like I'm also like...

...say: Oh Yeah, like I do this, or areyou interested in that yeah totally like you know, maybe I know a littlebit about it, but, like I canmit get into it on the spot. Ifeelie yeah, that's like the sage. opeople do that yeah tat' some level that would dotyeahit's all about deception yeah. It definitely is it's funny. It'sjust funny to me that they've picked off two real people and the dopretending to be a woman is still and it there it's hilarious to what everytime it gets invited to. Like all girls group chat, I can't stop laughing it'sso funny Sa. It's called the circle yeah the Sert on that Flik streamingnow, so that's it we're going to take aquick brape and then we come back and get straight INTODA. This topic I'll, do my last one quickly and thenHav Er gest on Dee gete yeah, welcome back Ralad you I sleepit yeah,so with Tus and hopefully enjoy whatever I'm going to put in that break.Post production yeah, we'll figure it out. So I want to talk about when you see a young person like let'ssay thsnty to twenty six or e or Tsanty thirty, okay, and you see them with a really expensive rolex or somethingReli, Eah, Farari or like Guci stuff or like. So like O, reallyfancy. You know for sitting in First Sarlass on the plane right like doinglike fancy stuff. What do you saying probaby? I I mean usually what theycome from a lot of money: Yeah Yeah Agan like a family business orsomething okay. So I'm going to explore this philosophical thing. I wasthinking about right. Okay, this mostly has to do with Ai Tuid lot of things. Actually. So Ithink, and there's was in this hear me outright. I think that society has it backwards, because, let's say you knowhow we're all like yeah you work and then you retire and you have money yousaved and then you can like enjoy the things in life. Okay, you know NeanYeah, so like Moss, the stereotype of that, like you get the Nice Verrori andyou get the nice watch and all the stuff when you're, not old. It's MIIT'slike you've made you're done like Wer you're, not done, but like your whenyou're Wan, you hat old, you dead, you're dead. Like you know you, you don't see that many eighty yearolds driving feraris because they can't get that they can't squad down thetright right Y, a or they don't wear them crazy watch or something or like travelthe world that much or whatever, because like they're like Super Olth,you know, like n state, you know and then all thers exceptions that stomtlike that. But I'm wondering if so, here's a thing, let's say:flipside you're like mid hts shirt and you I don't want to say like MarkSuckerberg, I I'm not talking that exceptially rich, but, like you knowyou mean you are you. You found some Nich thingand you're really good at what you do for, and you say, okay, I got this. I got somemoney I want to. I really want to buy elease a convertible like really cool fron or itwant to get this watch. If I was in a situation, I wouldn'tbecause everyone I sees me especially like my- would be like what is this kiddoing? You know t there's no way right right and so that I wait till I'meighty and then people say lik yeah,...

...look at hat all the guy though, but hecan't even like you know what I mean yeah it's. So I'm wondering if we're ever going to get in this pointin life that this ever is possible, where we don't automatically look at people andsay: Oh my God, look at that! Guy Right girl, like theyre, come from their parents, body andthey're, not working and, like you know whatever. Well, because, like I don'twant to say, I have this problem because I don't I like you know butshut Ou. The condition yeah I mean really Oer, just like. If I were to you, know like being looked at right like my flashy stuff,is going to make you get looked at right. I think a gets more acceptable. The older you are sure, because you sayokay yeah, like there's their parents are dead. Like you can't you know whatI mean. I think so. I have two. I had two responsies okay responses to thisone. That's just a broad thing about flashing wealth like that and onethat's about the age thing. I feel like a lot of people judge anyone spendingmoney like that because like if I were to, if I were to spend my money likethat right now, everyone would be. I don't think it would be so much your. I mean it would be you're the wrong ageto be doing this, but less because of the age itself and more because, like I,don't have a job yet like lae, I haven't Laed at the job, yet I don'tknow where I'm living like. I think that there's a point like you have tohave a certain amount of stability right and your like to be able to dothat. So I think that's the first reason people looking because it's like, like there's, always a question like doyou really have enough money and comfort and stability to be doing thisright, which is maybe a dumb question that we all ask but like there's thatthe other thing is that people I think I mean this is this is like this isthere's this whole political thing right now about, like ETA rich werelike all the people in the world, although, like the top one percentcould end poverty could end like it'starbasion yeah, like basicallyenclimate change, but they don't because it's O, I think that's theother part of it right. Is that like, if you have this money, why are youspending it on this stuff? And I don't know that that has an age thing andthat's maybe it like a pessimistic yeah youbut. I don't know I mean again. Ireally do get what you're saying because like I' rather have a for nowthan when I'm ninety and like unable to drive or see but like being a senior inUndergrad College, it would feel good because not what are we like right? So there's a moral thingthere where, like we're, making people feel bad, who maybe shouldn't feel Tbad,but then maybe they should feel bad because you could put all that money tolike stop the fires that are killing every animal and Australia right. Idon't know I just like. I feel like there's a you know, something that's not changedyet and of all the issues going on in the world is not any childen your important. But it's interesting because I know liketechnologies, change, medias change, like our tastes and what we like ofchanged like we don't buy music anymore yeah me, that's just access to it. Yeahright, Yep, Joe or then we're going to talk about that little bit, good. Whatwe, what hasn't changed is the theory of like who has what is isocially. You knowpotually acceptable reht for who to do what with their money, which isontrasting ach yeah, because there's a lot of people- and I do it too like if,if I see somebody with like you know like there's a kid with the Testlevwhers Di Tasses on Camas- I don't I don't know who it is but yeah I assumelike wow like that's just right, thet they're, just you know whatever, andthey might be great peopl. You know, but I have this like starpy, like innerdialogue. At the same time, wouldn't...

...you get to Tuzslo? If you could, I meanyou might not er park but like I would get no exactly like if it was yeah yeahand so that's totally hypocritical and I, but I wouldn't wantpeople to be like Oh man, you know, but that happens right and so, but it's also interesting because, like I feel like what Genzan likebillennials, even maybe like what their taste is, is also like rapidly changingsure. That's definitely true with anything like we don't like. I think I could say that if youhad, how much does it cost to go like Cochela or something out God thousanddollars, Yeah Wat Underexsat, at least let's say you had two ousand dollarspent the whole week on a weekend and Cochala or spend that money to go to,like I don't know Italy for a weekend or something Ithink you could make the stereotype and like tour like go like Roman. I thinkyou'd seriously, assume that, like sixty percent of people, would take the Cochella thing right. Ohreally, that's I think so our generation yeah, because I don't thinkthat that's not what you were going. The other way with that, no because Ithink that US were more like I wouldn do that, but I think that what we,because that's ix it's expensive to go to coature that no for sure t when youtell someone yeah, I'm going to cocell this week. AF, like I, don't think likewow. How did you afford right right? A that's Tro if you get box seats to abaskeal Haim like Oh, my g, what the HEC you know at experience so explaringits versis, like material yeah or like high culture experience versus lowculture, lilyight, Ltr, nhundd, micotansactions yeah, exactly no onewill know like youearly. I forgot to say this earlier by the way: F, itChack Plag di. You see this. His son spent like ten sand dollars in likereturns, Atcan See O. I did yeah it's allright. I just wanted to say that Iforgoutsid orw Yeah Yeah. You know the what you spend your money in is totally it's just like you know all you're flying right, firstclass fail our bozy. Well, I'm not talking about myself. I say likesomeone does that? Well them me, but they don't do something else right. You know what Imean it's just about where you want to put your money yeah and your time andEtergon yeah. That's hum this just it was just a thought I had, because Iwonder if that will change Wel, you definitely see it on college campuestoo, because it's such a big like cap between people who are like strarglingGooa forward to be here and er the people who are like tankful Tuiton, tregroup ow it those gases spend like a thousand dollars to I less here becausethey're not nationally afillanged, but yeah, it's nice, but it's Awas a see,tatnty a lot. What is it normally? I don't know yeah like a thousand, youcould buy a fricking new laptop for Tho yeah. It's why laptop people say? Oh myGod, you got yourself an Surben Yor like AER, no one says, but no, I that'sjust like an expected thing: likt money's, it's all the same currencyright, so I think it's interesting to just thinkin. You know like howdifferent uses get yeah. So if we have like a reunion- and I come- we all comeback right and youre tug, I'm driving a Frra. You know- maybe you guys, wentall over the world for like EG year and travel and stuff, and I just was ahermit sin y house, but I use that money than seve a lot of money and aforr, Thi Tin or Dispresso machine truston yeah at Triston. Those areexpensive, first guest ever on the show, all right, all right, I'm Gonno take it home, I'm going to talk about so I for this,I'm gonna I'm going to do a little introduction and then ask questionbefore I'd, say what I think about it, because I think that's the bes't whay to do it. I don'tokay, I want to talk about boycoming artists and specifically, whether ornot you think we can separate art from the artist because Andi'm using the term artis very loselyhere. So that's like...

Lewis, dk Ar Kelly Bill Cosby ChrisBrown, Kevin Stac, Michael Jackson, Bobby Brown, like it's everyone,because there are a lot of mainstream artists that have gotten in trouble for whole host of different things and I think a lot of times when they dothis, like especially with Chris Brown. I remember I because I think that wasthe first time I ever heard about something like this, but Chris Brown,those Ckses, I'm sorry all of them pill Pasby, even as soon as everyone findsout about this there's this immediate kind of instinctiunal reaction. That'slike don't don't listen to their work, don't look at them, don't interact withthem on social media like just just boycott everything do and I'm wonderingwhat you think about that like do you think, ethically to get philosophol again,philosophical Iwhatever, you know what I mean Mor. Do you think you have an ethical obligation to stoplike consuming anything produced by these kinds of artists, or do you thinkwe can separate art from the artist? Oh Man, it's an intense question to end up, butwell I want to say I'm not going to go with the answer. If it depends ragse, that's what every answer is every damndiscussion in class yeah this whole in college in Life Shit I mean if somebody like, like I never Okan like Chris Brown. Inever really liked Chris Brown sharp. I had I some of his music or whatever itas just like, whatever on my phone, but after I heard about like what came out with him and Riana andstuff and like just all that news like honestly, I would then see music id belike Oh, my God, Lik God, Mi got listen to that, but I would I was able to dothat, because I wasn't that interested in sharp music anyway because like ifit's like Leuis, like Kevin Spacei, was just Co. Yeah Kevin spacy was myfavorite actor like, I think, he's very talented. He also sexually abused men yeah in his life Samm, but, like I can't stop thinkingthat he's a good act. You know what I mean like you can't really cheat. Idon't know that you can choose what you're attracted to, I think, okay, soI think in my yes, so I have like classic rock. I have artists. Ihave like actors. I like I some that I can put in my head and say I know thatthis thing has happened and that won't take away from my that. Won't necessarily stop me fromconsterting the content, but it makes you a little uncomfortable, yeah andItell you that if the person, if the artist is also a great person outside of the artlike if the artist is just as great as the art shirt that they produce, thatmakes it that that makes like two hundred persidently, more enjoyable,yeahneed o that's Na Tra. I hadn't thought about the floop. Like that.That's interesting, like I mean I could even lie ofs ye H, Imean you know you can look at that with everythinglike I. You know when I'm doing my thesis onworld of Workcraft, who makes oef workcraft Blizzard Entertainment Shoulhappen with them. They basically censored free speech right somebody onand they were avocating to free Hong Kong. My stopping that Gamenyea, nothat's a little more complicated, because the developers and the artistsof the game did not shake that decision. That was a se. OneTin is different one. It's in one person, Toit's in when it's one that ersomebody I mean I can like Yo Su that even that example yeah. I was stilllike Oh shit, like I'm supporting right, you know, and I do,and I have that, but okay, so my answer is I'm going Ta See. My answer is yeah. You can separate the art from theartist and...

...honestly, sixty percent of that for me,is you know what like whell one person's not going to change right, therevenue of what that you know right, thats, exactly that's shit, thinking,Abouti, not shit, think all right, WE'RE GOINGTA GO! Tell me thing, okay!So for me it's very straightforward. I don't think this is. This is not going to satisfy alot of people and I'll talk, Abouti'll co in a little more depth after I saythis, I don't think morality or ethics has any place in art at all. I don'tthink art exists to be and I've written this before and pieces, but if art isethical, its ethics and philosophy, if its political, it's politics like artitself, is its own standa own thing and like yeah, it can have political,cultural, ethical ramifications and House clanses. But that's based oninterpretation. That's not the pieace! So I that's that's where I say I justdon't think that art exist anything to be, but I don't think art exists to beanything but good art if themic sense, but I know that that's not going tosatisfy a lot of people. Well, what? If you dot a cop out, do you, like President Jrunk, no okay,what if he decided? What's your favorite cind of art right now like atall like giving an exampl? I us say you want to Fu like you live Roin, ea songor a painting or something you like Buim asking is edit all of a sudden,our presidency's over I'm nout, I'm going to produce this and you're like. Oh, my God. This issweet, but you already don't like the artist. So here's here's. This is whereI'm going to make the tistation okay. Okay, so I think that yeah right thereis a distanction to make between artists, because there are artists wholive their works. O'm thinking like soup dog wraps about gonviolance andlike toking up and does all that or used to, especially for the vitals part,but and then like Bob Dillan raps are Telinraphs. That's so bad! I'm not going to cut that we're just going to keep goingKybob Bilin things about his travels and like his Experienceis, a hermit andlike travelling place a place and does exaggerates it, but does that so you'vegot that kind of artist whose work kind of reflect who they are. But then youhave artists whose work is just entirely performative, and so I'mthinking, like specifically like Miles Davis Jazz musician, has admitted onrecord that he abused a lot of different women in his life, but noone's going to think that his jazz albums are worse. For that. You knowwhat I mean like that doesn't affect his art. So I think the problem that we have hereis with this first kind of people. Right I mean obviously there's both areproblematic, but like the people that we want to boycott ar the ones whoseart reflects their behavior. That makes sense, but that, if we do, if we say that,then we're saying that the problem isn't the art is the behavior, and so Ithink that there, you know you just separating the art fom, the artist. Youknow what I mean so that's kind of how I walk through that. Logically, so I think I think, like it, make artmaking me uncomfortable as one thing like a trunp dropped at a fire album. Iwouldn't like listening to it, but I don't think morally. There would be a problem with melistening to it if that makes sense, and then you get into the like the likeconsequentialists, which is what you just touched on earlier, but like people who boycott, because they thinkthat they're contributing the artists ar supporting the artist. I think, onthe one hand, if you're doing it out of Solidariy, like if you ID, if, when allThas Chris Brown camp stuff came out, you just see were like. I stand withBreon it, I'm not listening to any of Christmas stuff right, you already own.The songs like I ' it's a good sentiment, but I don't know thatpractically it does anything. And now is I mean the streaming stuff. It's allcontracts, exactly so they're making like a negligible, moubscribe, spotifiand ongouns on spotifby. You don't have to listen to him. Your right and we'realso like we do things like that. Every day, like every day, we do little badthings that contribute to a greater bad aggregate like if you throw somethingaway that can be recycled, like that's a small thing in itself, but that'sgrowing the planet and EOPLA that...

Byyeah exactly exactly so. I think me.I just think we make c consequent or compromises like that every day, and Idon't know why we draw the line at an artist, so I think I just think Idon't think there's any ethics involved in art whatsoever, but even if there is,I think that I don't think that you have to morally stop listening tosomeone ore consuming the work of someone who fucked up yeah, which Imade me just saying to make myself feel better because, like I went to a Aseseon SAR show lhast summer after all, that stuff happened, yeah really funnystill fut a little uncomfortable like I don't know, that's a weird thing andthat maybe that's a half Pai thock. But let us know tweet at us. You know USCalle, David's phone hell, yeah I'll give. You is number later, we'll tweetit for two seconds: Yeah, well Twee David's phone number for like a minute.I bet everyone already has it following. I aanow there's a lot of people. Idon't know foloing yeah ibet people can use it all right, we're going to take numter,I grea. When we come back, we will introduce our guest Nooem Afata. We are NIC and David. We have our guest in hestudio, Heis a returning guest. You might remember him from season oneepisode, one Triston, not a hope. That's that's correct! Good evening Tristin, it's not not atall. How areyou haveve? You Been, I'm fine, yeah yeah. I think it's about cool.Well before we get onto your topics. Yeah, we talk. How O you feel aboutsocial media in general? Well, but then you ber, EXAC yeah. The netlixshow Tha Circle Isrhave you heard about that at all D: CIRPLE thes, no, okay,it's longer trd. Its a reality show where different ontestants are lockedinto rooms in the apartment and they can only interact online. So there's a lot or kin fishing, yeahyeah, that's just one of the bi O Asagam Yeah. I see I see more of a necessity in socialmedia than for me personally. I want to use it right like for facebook, forvarious, like groups Okan, I school events and keep up to day with thosethings sure all right, different questioncompletely. How do you feel about people who blow money on like Boochibags and forors and their twentis? I I just saw you like David. I thank you,David Yeah, that's the really Queston I thin see. I understand the want for luxury. I just think that there's better waysto to Gra his because me I have I jus Saing what I've done theBougeois llusion right, the illusion of appearing of the boes wise, but for little to no cost sure I, bygifted these things, you can fay ijre or yeah, finding them and thrift storesthings like that. If you pay for t price for things these days, I thinkthat you're done they pidavid, I mean Igat Inowho was helast Onei, don't know, but it was a good. Oh, how do you feel? Do you thinkyou can separate the art from the artist or I know it's a big question,but he's like Liiyk Chris Brown Bobby Brown? Do you think you can still listen inlike a in like a theoretical arm, her...

...kind of way, I think sure, right in a practical sense? Absolutely not! I think yeahei think I mean I think, that's avery, very safe answer. Yeaht sake answer. No, I think I agree with you.Yeah Yeah Di Ani want. I basically made the case that u you can like, logicallyethically separate the two but like I don't know how that translacts into myown life, like I still feel uncomfortable wes. I ol Bill pasmemeyeah, whoever right cool agreed all right, a see you guys nexwe're Gontaget so many listens, because Youri Guess Yeah O of course peopatusted.This Oni came Oni Wasan, atcrity ANAC charwhat. Do you want to stay well? So I keep this list. Okay in mytelephone right, it's title! Well, it doesn't have atitle, but the first we retrack. So I keep this list ofnames right sure it might be my phone, it's not like mcarthy! Isn't my Choolis alist more like a list of names. Thereare four categories: they all have. A certain Jenesequa about okaythey have acertain characteristic to each of these categories that I don't. I can't pinpoint- and I can't really describe, but they all have like commonalitiesbetween like within them and maybe between them. Anyway. The fourcategories are band names, obviously SAR bar names, cocktail names and mypersonal favorite, though crribulacrom horse themes right. Okay,so all of these things, I'm sure our listeners are. You know turning thegears in her head, O Wai O. Let me think of first anperson yeah, barneyscorrectothem. You know so like things like sea biscuit right or secretary, I almost said proletary Poba,that's a good horse, Nin TAT's, a good worsin and it's Alis ight. Basically, you know cocktit like dark and stormyoor Shart a Manhattan, a paper plane, those sorts of things. They all have acertain dealing about the certain persona and Ifeel the same way about band names. I feel the same about bartings clearly, and I don't know I can't even begin to describe likethey're mysterious so require maybe a little bit of explanation, but it butother times they're blatantly obvious. You know right like a genijis or something like that. So I was just wondering what your takeswere on that you know if they're, if you can put some adjectives to thecategory of horse names, if you know some forse names, I can read somechoice. Examples if yeah that so recesing yeah, okay, so hold on e. We had porliter, I mean right now, N top of my headbefore you read any of thes is that horse names take like like are usually expressions that you don't hear oftenor a combination of items that shouldn't be like sea biscit, an yousnat, you don't Sa Biscuits of the sea exactly right. That's just you rasyeahthat so it's like normal things, but with a twist like a strange combination:okay, okay, I'm going to throw something in you, yeah that will fitthat perfectly. Okay. Are you ready, yeah, yesterday's popcorn? Is that a horse nate? That is a horsename, the bad horse? What I want you to, we don't Lik,yesterday's Bu tr, not avenolike. What are you talking about? Is that a brandnameer we literally Tal About Popporas? Yes, like I know it's a horse name butlike that combinationis stupid...

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...that could be a horse. I couldnot. Yes,I can liis horses have to wear the inkle wrap sot things I mean right,like the Wi relatte. I just think th Esgoti don't want todrink a sock, that's good in the wind, but I want to ride a Horse Wor fet on ahorse, an winsock, that's somting, that R Alreay Giv. That one word TAT towords. This is one word what it would your opinions change if it were twowords yeah, so like Wsck, win sock, what it just flow? Okay, allright is, this is a cotail name and it will not be a horsename ever ever everever so long as I live, rogue drop, that's a horse. Ning areyou shetting, because it's bro Thouh, I actually aree with they with her. Ithink that's worsekin Moke and they dropp like shit and the drop drop differentreasons, but I'm trying to think it. They drop winds like they drop. Well,you can you. Can you pick drop people horse kicks the person of the Horse, myo dropping the person off the body. Can you pick a name and not tell us it's ahorse? Okay. Yes, that's a good idea: okay, Roge Drocky, MEA second yeah! No, norush. Give me a second. I really dot. Give me a second. I don't know I don't I don't listen.Ingrediens, that's kind of just brings rimean, okay, okay, ta a be a cool dream: int, okay, ready,yeah, public rush. I'll, see! That's interesting because I want to say horse, but I think that Ithink that that could also be a cocktail. So probably thepublic part doesn't make me think it's a cocktail. If he did, I think it's aband name, but I don't iit is the worst thing. I don'twant my Hor Ting public rush, because my worse is not open to the Public Yoow I mean it. Tryinkthe secrets or NI will great. I fooled you both. It was abar name. I wasid go to public Rushi, go obarn, TAK! This! I want polikincrowded all right. I think Difficulcustomerthink, like my, like my private view, the Nice Table Devid said this:is they look into like dance with fifty people skin to skin contact, BAS, it'scrowded and a public rolly, taking a fine Mesh to Myal? Ghokay point point:The thing: thescan IM: Yes eah! So what in your head? How ware youdeciding that? I have no idea this ime, I couldn, I really couldn't tell hether.It was a horse or a yes. What's your thought process tat by theway that process Thot Bo name of e CCTEPO process anyway e? That's a goodoctail, a woul not be able! Thank you. These are all compregrated, thoselistening, so yeah even try. They actually I's Veen trusetually. Nowbelongd to with Nicka David, we own the itelectualnot public rush made me think of publicenemy rush. Isn't Russia band what yes, so that I put the to together? Ike? Oh,that's totally a ban name, but it's not so Davis, basically a roer option. Hewas just not really literal about all o this, I'm just Tik hat, that's Al! Iguess I go super literal yeah. I think I genuinely, I think, I'm stumped, Idon't I don't know I mean I'd, have to think about it. I don't know, there'sdefinitely a different quality for each of them. I can not tell you what it is.Thank you. How did you find this leek? How did this hit you this hit me? I think it started with yesterday'spopcorn and I was shout on conversation shot at toyesterday's pop shot. Ot S, popcorn all poporn, as the poential DSRI think,Wohanna Gondi said that...

...no, I heard it and I said wow thatsounds like something very mysterious and very sort of inaccessible Asoteric evenand.I just tecin on caps, forse names, precidentor, teping, yesterday's pocornand Italics. There you go and now I dedicate thirty percent of my life. This is a career, its all right. Well,let us know Social Media Atnick David Show. Let us know if you can tell uswhat makes a good horse tin even better than that. Just tell me: come up with the Horse thing: Come overthe Horsetheah, let just fill our in boxes. An Mor smell us in with ha horse name. That's reallyinteresting. I bet like I tbet I tbeugt our listeners could call up with somegood forseen. I would figure yeah. Maybe they keep up a list of their ownand they don't share it with anyone right. As I mean you know it's sometimes you got to keep toesecret yeah all right, that's o yeah! Anything elsewant to talk about. No, that was everything that was awesome. I reallylike that. Actually phenomal Corse names, RT, I'm gonna,comrstname Al Right, Ne IMI, Dier N. ask IMG, give you a name. Do you have?I feel like yesterday's Popporn is going to be the title of this episode.You have any other, you have any other. Any other names of courses that I wouldwant is yeah. That MiG would be a good, well podcast, there's another one,podcast episode, title podcast that was t on coming op or behind it's podcast rich uncle Farts, I think, is prettygood. SOBODY WE TALKAL farks, that's Ahorse, right, yeah, all right, so wer.No, it's a drank dated R for the title of a podcast R. I think that's what his mopointspretty good and that's as many forse tings is uncomfortable relinquishing tothe public yat fair enough. You gotta GA keep most of it to yourself. I coolall right. That's Tartas, potcorn, phenomenal yeah. Thank you for comingon it's. It was my utmost pleasure. Okay, well, Thas a Cha Charitable Act,Yeah Tur, O turble act. THAT'S A KICKASFORTNAK! That's no! I disagree yeah because it sucks somuch it'ssur. I Wul, I think, I'LD be a funny band. I think it'd be a funnyband name. Sometimes I crossliss them yeah, I'm gonna put it as band and I'm Goinnaput it his cocktail. ABOUTA. Sometimes Shit Y is getting drune. You know tit'sa Carbe, a Wa Rih Aritale Act, that's what we're depending on sometimesgetting drunk. That's a cherible act. Thank you. WASHALIS.

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