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Episode 3 · 1 year ago

S2E3: Doubt

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Does anyone really know how to use LinkedIn? Is Elon Musk a hero or a villain? How can we make amusement park rides even better? Tune in as we answer these questions and more with special guest Sidney Senita!

Don't worry about it, Jimmy my dreamswere shattered years ago, how, many years ago, how old are you Iviokay? My Bitch look like Imake CosmoPol up with the BLIK CO on a fit shit to get to shift in e Coparaneyesweomething. We should definitely have. I just I feel, like we say, wilcome backat the start of every episode. I A hello. All YEA was naked David. You guys know thefour matters two of us we just come in with two topics and yeah. Then we don't know what they areand today we'll have a guest as well and yeah sounds good social media, asalways at the David Show, check us out all right. Let's just jumpright into ship Indoi make this conciss. So I got two topics, my first one, I knew hat you have linkedin. I do so.What do you? What is your experience? Men with it? When did you get it? Idon't I don't understand it: okay, I'll start there. I have it. I've had it for a while. I mostly use it to look at jobs andapply to jobs. I think it's useful for that for that kind of purpose. I have noidea how to use, but like lets like post and share your accomplishments,like I don't get, why it's a social platform as well as have you evergotten an internship for a job from Linton? No, I don't think so. So that'sI I want to talk about and what Youre kind of saying is what I'm, what I havehere. So yes, so I guess Microsoft, Bottlington Oasy, not not like a coupleof years ago, I just assumed they already owned ityeah. Well. The reason why they're really prevalent with applicate, applying to jobs and stuffis because Microsoft has this whole recruiting Algorithm Platform thingthat they merged with Lincoln, okay, acquired them, and that's why I thinkabout three years ago, when we were first years. That's why there's this craze of likeoh you gotta get like did because like right, I'm telling you it's here likelike Ti, look so much different. Now, that's what that was gosh, yeah epaksAr our career planning center. Here it was big, is yeah. They still, I think,well take winkeed boos and like offer that yeah. So I was thinking about it because is reallike seniors and stuff and I'm sure milly of our listeners ar seniors ormaybe juniors or in college or out of college you have like in it pays a latefor Oppertationlik everyone's ill sethe, oer Ike, it's a very weird I just I as I search for jobs and save stuff ortime right, Nex to people it's so like. I just think it's missing somethingwhere it can't be that easy, because in my experience right when I put like I don't put I've, never postedanything social right Onlik. I know people I feel like people who aresuccessful or famous or good at what they do they post stuff like today atsuch and ses company, we've done extra inz and then a bunch of people like itor whatever, but other than that. Half of the stories I see- and maybe it'sbecause e people I'm ceckd with are all like, like one person, was like my friend,left this job that she loved to take another job, because the salary annualSALR was ten osand dollars more and Oy sow that's. I think I saw that yeah andit's not worth it and Baaah Lat. I was like okay, but it's just that kind ofstuff. That's all like don't give up Byou you know be who you are take theopportunities you want to take Bahblehblah, which is great. I looklike I pust someone I think once and it was like the same thing I posted on theface. It was just literally like I'm looking for a job pit me up yeah. Idon't understand why like searching for jobs, yes and I have you ever gotten like a recruitermessage- oh yeah, like I don't I don't know, I haven't everresponded to them. I've looked into what their company is bout up, but it'sjust like. How can you be? It just doesn't seem like a good opportunity ifsomebody reaches out to me well, not even with adegree like yeah. I don't know what what kind of recruiters are reachingout to, but the ones that I get are all like. Come join this accounting firmthat I'm starting or like working on it. It's like I don't know if you've lookedat my resuvat, but, like you don't want me an youraccounting form like o Awfulli, it's basically very generalized jobs that,like pretty much any yeah undergrad graduate can do right, and I just likelike having done. I did like an enterand internship abroad program andI connected with...

...my colleague that Werk on, like mycoworkers ewere on Lindon sure, because it wasn't all of them right and therewere a lot of people. I really like the people that I really worked with thathad really cool roles and liked me, of course, not have lengthin accounts, butthe people I didn't really know, but I kind of knew of them because, likebecause I was going to say, that's, maybe something that we can't speak toyet is like, as you have work, Morn jobs and meet more people. You want tostay in touch professionallis that they can tell you if thereare newopportunities in the field or that you're interest in yeah and like I meansomething but don't if they don't have like, then like you're, saying thatit's like yeah, so my dad has linked in because I think it's a it's like a thing like you have to havebeen inthis company like the Mak. Everyone had linked in for professionalwhatever, and he never touces it. He doesn't havea profile picture yeah on the thing, and he tells me that all he gets islike young people. He meeds or whatever rlike people like Hey, like Youow, William, like go, connect me because,like the thing is that he's, you know pretty much. He's Werre,is he set he's not looking for stuff short, the young people, but like o? IfI connect with him so he's wanted to help other people, his Lovo, no he'snot he's Onefictu, he doesn't need to touch it. Hes Es notoers. I go which,like so that my other thing is. You want to build a network with peoplethat you that might be able to help you in someprofessional setting chart in the world right. So I got like Kem bcnb, which what is thatSanfor, Byiryn liubor biology who want to connect? Is Me I'm, like I'm sorrylike? No just because they know you from Wolcester yethey yeah, and I don'tknow if that's because the APEC people told me likeYouju, get a linked in and add everyone. You know right, okay, I did do that andI was like, but this is stupid plike I don't I haven't used any I mean I will say it, so I justposted this thing, but looking for a job recently I post on, like din, I gotan email from the father of a girl, I've known since, likeelementary school s, telling giving me a suggestion of someone I could reachout to that. I think is the only thing thatcame with it, but that I didn, I posted the same thing on facebook because Iwas like you know what there's a community of people that that know mebetter right and like are a little more connected, and I got like six peoplelike three of my mom's friends. Like one person I interned with telling meabout a fellowship like I just think I I don't think that yeah, I'm with you,I don't think Linkedin is all that yeah I mean like I. I guess I'm goingto this and you might be going to like this. This communication, NationalCommunication Association Conference Thing Right. Maybe we s o there andlike and you then you get theirh linkedins or whatever, but like I feellike it's just I don't know it feels very strange andI'm curious about like the future of what you know. Maybe ill turn helpful.Well, I don't think there's no way linked in as it is stays like like itis for this nice generation. What is cool, though, is that tey got thisfeature where, if you're at, like a convention or a conference in people,you can on the APP it's kind of like a airdrop but relion. So instead of eSeet, you business cards like you, bring your smart Tinin, tap phones andthat's kind of ethits. Pretty Sus like a electronic handand met this person,which I'm Lik that's cool, but like also can you imagine if you're, if you getthe opportunity to meet someone really high up and you're like hey, could youlike take out your phone rik right yeah? You know like come on Eah, that's o!That's a weird! I would just run around with my fellow trying to hit as motherpeople's phones as I could exactly so. I just it was something that came up inmy in my head. I think it's yeah, I don't know if they're trying to reachtoo much and have too many features right that because I don't want to likeTak smack, but I see people who post like hevery freaking day aboutsomething they had the unique opportunity to do and whatever and like like it looks good. They got the Nicepicture, they got Erin Neal, they got the paragraph of text, but, like also,I don't know how much that contributes or does righather than I mean. Maybe it's Ti says: Hey, I'mackive nd, I'm looking for something or you know I mean, but and then they alsohave other features like the whole. Easy apply thing where you can do eaand just Cliye and put in your phone number an ancansial resument. Send itlike don' Noi do that over applying through an application. Well, I don'tknow I've been asking people idon'. Never I feel like that's like the get get like free, quick and easy wayto. I don't know well because, as soon as you do it, you know it's just goingto as bit database, that's full of like Wundres of those yeah, and I feel thatfeels wrong, but I don't know I genuinely. I have no idea from aprolate professional level of putting an actual application and it makes itmore...

...ihave to assume it does makes it makesyou stand out a little more. I don't know because yeah, if you know let usnow lit' Now, if you know let us know yeah yeah, wooper, Foug, interesting,liketen, all right all right. So my first topicis about a gentleman I feel like last season. There were two kind of figuresthat came up throughout our podcast a lot and I'm going to talk about one ofthem. Again. It's not Konye. Okay, do you! You know what I'm picking of. Isit a comediate? No, it's not a no, no, no nono, we eat! No. So I would like to talk about ourfriend. You know MOU love, Thim, O hasis. You want Mus budge. I was close.Yes yeah, you were very close TVID, so I don't know if you've seen anythingabout this but muth. It feels weird calling you justmusk. I feel very unfomfortable doing that yeah, so yelamas just released a EDMtrack. Have you seen this or heard it? No Yogotta play snippitg on five guys yeah. We can pause here. Ai'll play a little yeah, so it's a it's like a house. It's a piece,it's actual music, which is unexpected like on the platforms. It's on soundcloud. I don't know if he's uploaded anywhere else, it's called. Don't doubtyour Vibe, your is, you are sure yeah and it's blowing up just a littlebecause it's Elon loss right. So anything he does gets attention. TheGuardian has reviewed it already and the headline for that review was- and Iquote, bringing a rectile his function to the masses and then member the reviewer went on to call it.I want to be dance for Banger that somehow manages to doubt its own fide,so they hate that everyone hates it. Well, that's really impressed that's avery impressive that writers awesome yeah, that's whatever Ie. Whoever putthat piece together, I wish I had the name pulled up, but do not so this actually isn't the first timethat Youo Muscas put out music. It flew a little under the radar last year, buthe put out this kind of very audotune comedy song called Rip Herombe where he wraps yeah it's interesting,but that one's definitely supposed to be a joke and the one that he chose.HEROF is probably not, I think, which makes a different and so that that gotme thinking about just Elan Muskan general, because Ithink I've been trying to figure out how I feel about him for a while, because he definitely seems large thanlife right. I mean, like his parents are his father's, a South African engineerand his mother is a Canadian model. Nutrition mist. His name is Elan Reeve Musk, which isjust in itself like cartoon character, ish he's dating a Canadian garangemusician called Nin krimes. So, there's that and then, like he's responsible ninvolved in everything from like papel Ta Tes Lit Thi spaceex. Like he's, heis- and I don't know if this is sad or really cool, but he is the probably theclosest thing we have right now to a reallife ironman right, which is kind of strange tothink about. But then at the same time as all that stuff he's done, somereally questionable or like kind of shitty things so like he essentiallystole Tesla like the company from the OJ founders. His businesses losemillions of dollars every year working conditions inside his tesla plants aresupposed to be like obscenely bad, and then he just reacts kind of poorly tobeing challenged at all, like theire whileback, when he was proposing plansfor the hyperloop that he wanted to build. There were a couple public,translit officials who basically criticized him and his response to themwas literally just to say your idiots and and nothing else he's accused. There was one reporterthat he accused to beting a pedophinale because he pissed them off, but therewas like no evidence or anything for it. So like there's this, I think a lot ofpeople either really like you on US- are really dislike. You on us and I haven't decided, so I guess I wasjust curious how you feel about him, because this last this latest newsabout this song is just it's making me think that he's just lost his mind atthis point yeah I feel like the creetive, I meanthe creative geniusis, an like people who do crazy things. If the world are, I mean, there's always something alittle bit particular right with their minds. Idon't mean that necessarily like a bad way, but sor steve jobs was like ut giant asshole Hehad at moments like,oh now, like the I mean you got, Eon Busk, yeah, Doan,Jeff Bezos and I feel like luckerbird and part of it. Yeah part of it, Ithink, is because they have all this there's a magnetifying glass on allthese people, but and also they have a...

...lot of influence and power and moneycontrol over there right go made in that SOM, but yeah like it's, I mean because I just I think I meangenuinely as far as I can tell the only mustks just to do right, like he's avery smart dude, but it's just a he's, just a guy with a lot of money like ifI, if you were in tha position and you were just rich beyond your dreams andyou had that kind of level of fame. Why? WHY NOT RELEASIT PO? I trlic, Iwould totally I mean I would do all of that. Like there's, like the I mean going off r iron ban example,like I mean Irman too, he thinks he's gonna die orwhatever, because chemical talks, and so he, like totally start like he drives his F one race car. He have ateam he drive, he raises a car. AE throws parties everywhere. He, like Imean he has this moment of, like I got to do everything I gotto do before youknow what I when I was looking up when I was like johnny down nose for this. Ifound out that I forget who it was. Someone working onTha original iron man project sent Robert Downa juior to spend some timewith Youlan Musk Gand to hang out with him to like ye a sense of lhat. Thatperson is like yeah like attitude and which I thought wasreally interesting. Yeah. I don't know it's just it's justweird to think because Lisin the movie was me yeah. I think you wigt in toyeah. Yes in Inter three, it was like. I like Tony I'd like you to meet andhe's like. Oh yeah well catch up and it was like a Cambeo. Yeah hat was a funrasor. Yes, yes, okay yeah! I just like. I think a lot of people are either likeI love Yolamokhe's, going to save the planet and humanity and like prevent ultimate destruction, and thenthe other half of people are like no he's. Goingto he's the one. That'sgoing to kill us all like this is or he's just a bad person likemanipulating people, and I don't know that either of those ar good takes yeah.So I just wanted to kind of throw it. U There and see what you were thinkingabout it. I memder the the test. Left thing isilireally appreciate the TESSLA thing, yeah bat now he's I don't know he got kicked out rightand he did yeah. He got osgod. He still has some created J design over, I don'tknow, maybe he did whatever, but that I respect Ammir, that project right, but it's interesting, yeah, there's justsomething off. I'd rather have those kind of people that not sharks. I feel like you can't havesomeone who's like perfect and also does all these right, Ra crazyinventions. You need. You need both yeah, like what tes let bin as big if hehadn't taken control from the original coders or creators like I have no idea.I don't know, because that was a start right yeah was that whas he known before that nowI think heas he did paypal. He did coding for Papel. He did COOTI yeah and Tis Blun ta, but Tezla Yeah, Ithink, is what because noone cares about a money trying tope business butpeople care about, sell triving cars, yeah, so Yolon Bos interesting. Let usknow what you think interesting we're going to take a cook great and thenwe'll come back and do our last two topics we're back for Bak. So my second topic involves Uiversalfictures, meetforoadeas, kate tg, as yes, Thirstin pers welllast year, Theo season she was in la and I went down there and I was like we. We should do somethingyou know whatever. So I I went down infor the day. We went tuniversalstudios because I was like okay, like that's Lik do and I haven't been theresince I was like really low right, and that was like the thing to do, because I, like movie production stuffand like they have sens there, and it was a cool thing. But ultimately is agiant. Money grabbing seem shirt. You now yeah, and so we went on like the Hanry potet world, onthe ride thing and like walked around and all the stuff and like it was. Itwas fun. You know like nothing to super right home about, but the set in thehodwards thing of Osan. That was really cool, but it got me thinking about now.They release he trailer for Pastthe, verious, nine yea Hav just call youfast nined. It jst look so stupid, like they're. All of a sudden saying thatVIN diesel has a brother Uhhuh and the brother is Johnson,...

...you nowyou know, I'm gonna have PuyeahYeayeah so ye I I'm gonna Watch it all that, like I'mexcited for it, but also with the hell you know, but it got me thinking about why we like I kay and I didn't go on all of the ridesand do all the stuff right, because it took literally three hours at least toget onto yeah. I got server like it was, and so I was actually watching. Somepeople, like recorded, like videos of them going on other, rides, there'sjust curious yeah and they were really bad. Video, no, like videointhe reviews,ind the common sections at you heard like Everyonewas, like this sucks, likewhatever like it, was not a Mersevf all his stuff. Yet the advertising and likethe hype around Universal Studios Right is huge and, to a certain extent, i'me also seensuff of the Disneyland. It is the world about tat so like with Te, no star warsmovies. They have like a life size, Mondyand Folon II. In there and stuff Iwas just at Tusny. We were there right yeah. So how was your experience there?I was. It was s like I kind of okay. This was my first time at Disney world.Okay, once I go passed the whole like just the immediate dystopian vibes likethey make you, you have to scan your fingerprint to get into each park yeah.So once I got past all of that, like the band that you use for everything, I had a good time, but I definitely getwhat you're saying about the rise, because there were rines that, likeyeah, I think we waited in line for an hour or something to do like a toystory thing, and it was just it was like maybe six minutes of spinning honething and then everyone got out and it was like really that's what we waitedfor like. So I don't get. I don't get that, butyou like, I know you like Toi sorry so you're like a we gotta. Do that becausethat right, I guess it's like an nostalgia thing yeah, but I will saythe Star Wars exhibit that I went through was really cool like it wascool, it was very cool, seeing the Falcon up, close, that's cool and theexhibit we did a couple, but they were they were. I can't speak for Einversal,but the Star Wars, ones that I did the rides were pretty well done, but theywere also newer. Obviously so right. So I I just wonder what I'm curious aboutlike if you could inovane these kind of theme, parks and stuff with the nextthing. What would it be because okay, we havelike had started out with like Ruller, coasters and stuff and then Allo Sudn?You have this IMX right, I mean universal. Is they started this thatbasically like where you like? I got in like a it's a Bsit in amovie theater and then all of a sudden, it's like Ros are in airplan yeah EA.They have like the facts and Youe win and you actually feel like you'reflying. It's really cool, but also like really Chivy, but I think that's innovation like what'sthe next. I don't know I think, but I think that's where we're going to befor a while. It's like a Mersive, VR kind of all senses, Engagedes v Ar evengoing anywhere. I don't know, but I mean like like that airplane thing itwas Threv pereacly yeah I mean no glasses like it was like right, Yor inlike it, there was one of those in the stawies at it. Where you got we got. Iactually got split up from the people I was with, but you entered like a podlike a ship and you each had a different taspat signs. Sof Two peoplewere steering to people work, oners and two people were engineers and they eachhad. It was like a shit that was like rocking back and forth with threed shitcoming at you, then each person also had like the captains the piles werestaring. The gunners were like aiming and trying to Shet enti fighters and Othat's really the engineer at the back. It was like we had to launch harpoonsto grab cargo, but also any time any of the buttons lit up on the wall. Next tous, we had to hit them to turn them off to like fix the ship, so it was actually a really cool kindof experience because you were like all your senses were engaged at once. Youknow what I mean like you could hear. You could see. You felt everything butyou're, also thinking and trying to like all right, then what the I justtrigure that what they need to do is they need to elevate these escape roomsinto this kind of shit. There's an escaperoom in DC, but I wit that I'vedone it a couple times. whut theyve got different rooms. One of their rooms isa VR escape room. Yes, like you put goggles on, and you can see things thatyou wouldn't be able to overwos the possibilities that are an with yeah andthe level of them version yeabut. I don't think I don't thinkjust a VR ride where you're going Trouh, I mean that's cool for like the loldfactor of like how realitic people, what if you were on a ship yeah you AlEla, fucking and like you could not like it was a mission right and of youfucked up and like didn't hit the button an time. WOR didn't hit theright sequencs like you're done, and you either have to come back and do itlike I 's it's Sereo stressful, like training exercise, you know what I meanlike an it's. Like an accomplishment thing like I, like this science, Ye wasIk, I crib he scame broom right right,...

H, whatif, it's I did that. I thinkthat's, I think, that's what we're moving towards is: okay, at'so, likeidentity like or not, identity based, but like rent role playing br we liketo de emulations exactly you know, that's why la I know you were't there,but we played secret hid were e overnight. I heard Tyeah and I gotreally intense like to the point in again, former guest took has shirt off, which then caused me to appoint him,chancellor, which then ended the game because he turned out to be fascisstbut well played in e people listening but like. I think I think that I meanmaybe it's a certain type of person, but I think that we people generallyrespond really well to games like that. Where you've got like a role or anidentity, is I mean that's? Why, like dungeons of dragons was so popularright yeah? I think it's, I think, that's what we're moving to towards isdnd on the next level. Yeah, like can you imagine playing, is like a Dorf orwhatever, and then you see like an actual fuckin monster in front of you,that you have to like cast pells at t, yeah lright. I think that's what we'regoing, I'm looking to look for it, cool ill, be good all right. My last topic is a little alittle heavier again, so this past week marks seventy five years since the Sovietliberation of Alshwisz. This is a really really big Turnin tone, and Iget that so bar with me, but there have been a lot of differentkind of commemorative events happening on campus off campus like everywhere.It's just a really big deal and I've noticed a pattern in these kinds ofdisplays that I want to talk about, and that pattern is that includingincudting all o this place that Hellol, our Jewish association here put up.They all include trigger warnings and content morings, and I don't know how I feel about that,because, on the one hand, right I get thatcontent warnings are supposed to be about they're supposed to protectpeople from reliving traumatic experiences or like getting put in fighterflightanxiety, an dusing situation. So I understand that I guess I just don'tknow if that still applies in the situation. It feels different because,like everyone knows what the Holocaust is right, Li Ess, it's a hard thing toavoid. It's such a famous and lar scale thing, and I think that makes it lesspersonal than like say sexual, solid or other kind of traumatic experiences. And so, if it's less personal, I justdon't know who these content mornings are protecting, especially because thepeople putting them up are the ones that you think would want to warning.Like you know, Hollell putting up content warnings for nonjewish people is an interesting kind of flip on whatthey're, usually for I'd. Also like I just minorities, Jewsincluded that all minorities don't get any kind of warning when they're,carassed or assaulted, or killed or whatever. Sowhy? Why would you give everyone else that warning what I really feel like the nature of this event makes triperwarnings obsolete, like I think, all they're doing at this point is, isenabling ignorance like they're, allowing people to avoid confrontationwith what's happening in front of them. That's just something. I've beenthinking about. I've seen it everywhere, so I just wanted to bring that up. I'veonly talked about it with a couple people, but like O, I just don't yeah. I don'tknow. If trigger warnings are always her content warings. I think they haveto be applied correctly. So I know that, like for two of my classes, this smester weredeal with a lot of watching lots of film and looking ot ofcontent. That's O Prevestorshu give content wording and trigger wardingsport right, but they stress the importance of like if you feel it, if you feel likeyou might get triggere or something like pleas, you can leed room, but it'simportant to what what I think sticks out. What hesays is like it's important to dio these diviges address. Thesituation like understand talk about what was going on or what is going onbecause we're looking all kinds of stuff right, but that's definitelychanged from even freshman year here, because I don't remember, maybe even software- I don't remember.I don't remember seeing a lot of this kind of stuff until my junior year,like trigger warning Si right in general and even on, like social media, a gone posts and theyhave other tms to say, like content wording fiew and you click yes,Lik, it's burtered out. You know right, and I think especially for this, likeyou were saying like that's, I don't know if it's, maybe because inthe case of at wecster in the pit Wer, I see it. That's like such a centralplace in campus sare baby. If there's tours or something like it's, so it's othat as opic tats consideration is torsebut. If you hadn't, like Abrit orlike a academic building or had a room...

...like or even a place in the pit. That'smaybe not wor the spot like this right, even though that's like the board ofyou know other whatother examples. Are you seeing and is that the play thatwhat you're talking about I mean mostly mostly that but also just like, likeeven on Social Madia Post that are like right, huryor warning this is about soand so then you have to they've enter so many times that you have to likephysically open the post to read it thatway I mean, like you, have yeaheven small things like that because, like I don't know like it's, not a funthing, I'm not saying it's. A fun lay Yo want to see that butisat. So new,it's like it's likecontent wording. Culture like it's, a yeahthing o likewhat like dem as like you walk by like if someone puts upt photos of somethinglike pretuitously or expositly sexual mm and someline, there's no contentwarning or cover, and someone walks by his head that experience. It's like Ohshit, that might trigger like fighter flight and like put them in a reallybad spot right if it's a photo of Ouswitz, but everyone knows what'shappend, we learn about it in school. You walk by and you go. Oh that'sreally oppressing. That was shitty. That sucked- but it's not going to like put you in an anxiety attack. You knowwhat I mean for most people wat it does. I mean it could, but the people thatyou think it would do that for are the ones that are putting the peace of. So I yeah, I see what you're saying. Ijust think I something about it feels different to me. I can't quite put myfingure on it, but I think it's interesting to thinkabout sgoothn right. That's interesting! All rightthat brief shift an tol eside. We are now going to take another quick reak,and then I have our guest on a yes Ac wit, our yess you AR. I guess, he'llhear US andthein two seconds we are with Nick and David. We have aspecial guest today, the one the only Sydney, the stranglers neede hello,everyone e've already been ever Raes Ron, Fello mymokay. We talked about afew things before you got here. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, give you fourthings and you can pick one and then we'll fill you in you talk bout fourthings, my Gosh linkedin you an musk theme parks and trigger warnings. Probably don'tpicture your warnings because e hat no, because it's a really depressing topic,yeawe ca about Linkdon, because I have a funny story. Bout like a not sure my favorite story is one of my friendsshot up to a girl who told me this: She knows who she is. Apparently it's funthat she doesn't actually use it for job applications. She just sends natgtythings to her boyfriend through Likdin Os, but I've also never actually usedlinkdon. It feels like a weird version of facebook, and I don't like that. I also don't know how to use itproperly and be professional about it. So I just have refuse to that's exactlyw. We talk yeah, that's lierally, we Avlik yeah, like what would I pick my profilepicture to be like? Definitely that photo of Yiou an a cardword box, gaiononesame page, an it'suncomfortable ind that we probably should use it, but it's also a veryeasy way to find jobs. That's yeah at think. It's only that's its only redeeming factor. Ifyou to don't stop you all the I'm por to cut this Ini, esemealright sothe hat.Do you want to talk about? Okay? I have my first topic that I haven't tippedyou guys off to you is I want to talk about Tick Tock, to Tam, we're talkingabout new age, social media. Do you guy swear on the show? Oh yes, okay as gosay: TIKTOP, binches, the fact that it's mainly made forteenagers and the fact that now college students are afusing it and thatthere's like middleaged people on it, who are just grying to understand, yeah,well, they're, just trying to understand t and then useit for weirdreasons like all the doctors and des like that Wai how are colgmen abusingit.

It's marly just a lot of drinking andstuff, but then theree also know there's like kids, who are under age onit o. So then the kids see drinking and they and it's like yeah there's, likeliterally kids, were like thirteen okay, you knowoogo, there's weird parts oflike the APP where it's like weird thingsabout sex O, that's fun and there's like thirteen year old kids on on canyeah, but you can't consent to it because for you page it has its ownalgorithm. So o you can just there's people that are underage of consent andthen you're just showing them something weird about sex and ISOYI way. Twet!Isn't I can you tell me what Titom is it thing that Tine it's like long vine,so wha right, music and Oopshit Yeah? So it's like fifteen second to likethirty second videos, but it was originally musically in theUS which was then bought out by a Chinese company, and now they call Meitta. They woul start thooking as head as too. As you said, Chinese, Oh, butthat's! The thing is: There's stuff. There's people on kicktock who have nowmade a fun game of putting up stuff, gritiing the Chinese government andseeing how long it takes for Toaix sit writ down. Susthey BA US military tiwe're just talking out of your ass I' noly serious soldiersnotwdhow. Do you do? Can youshow Netontaktim, oh I'm sure, not IASO Hawoe, what the fuck do you do? But ifit's a visual video thing you talk about sex because you can feel likecaptions and things on the videos so al, like memes Shit like when yeah kind ofthat's toxin, I dov or like just me doing. This thatis was behin a Tik tack that was abelt and I'm Il tri to turn that audiee own as much as I can but Gontoiste tous,but he is e Beintailor with his headphones and he'll, be very bad. If Ibreak his headphone talking about Ti Co, tak kind of at'I know it's a verydifferent thing, but it kind of reminds me of you, Cak Fuck, Oh yeah did I forNou that Ya Kea existwas like more like, because there was hate speech Therik tofresman year Wen. I wasn't Ineyo once once my life, because motherfuckersware talking Sol out outside pledging and shit in Ben Furln, Usem, and so Ima ack, I literally wrote like shut the fuck up. You, no life, Greek mother, anno Ogo, I did't, MEA thatfibueit Wasway, O use,I anonymous yeah, and then someone responded like hello right and I waslike e geting BCI'm gutting borcasoning alianathen. Someone else said likeabout the all makes and shit they were like fuck, the O, wigs and someone wastrying t like the brotherhe never dies, and I was like wow man line. This is Aothin, oissly underground frats. Was It asthere? was there an age thing on that?Did you have to be a certaination use? You just had to say you were at theschool right that there's no like verification. It was no there. Wasn't?U At's, just like you're in this high school you're it this corrict. Sothere's like there's, no reason that you would want to join some otherschools. Theoretically, but like same thing like you can post whatever youwant on there. Anyone C see it. Do you post then Tikton, I'm not made aposttime Tik talk. I have a few idea is up Itrin t talk thing, IO, AER tick.What was it o so totik? I connected it originally to my Tonaro whach. Alsoeveryone out here that doesn't know me, I'm a monster of the Internet. I do havesocial media maverick. I gues twitter is my Davit atonwhat. Is it I'm prettysure it's ask Sanida s SCNITA, but nonetheless don't need to Follo Meintoitter, I ola well, but they won't follow us ons, whether they want o but like it took my it took my username,which at the time was professional mapper, but that's too many characters.So it's professional nappy. Oh It's, I think iyou're, not the AEROE TAT, Theattheenigh, yeah, becuse, I'profssional NAP ressal napster. So all I do is like I keep all of mine in mylikes, so I do think. That's also interesting. It's like a lot of peoplejust watch it. They don't necessarily like they don't post. It's very suntedivine interesting but like haven't you heard of like there's a new group ofpeople who are coming out with like bite. Jis Ian told me about it. Lastweek I got. I wish you had' Brok, because it's not fine, it's just beingfake fine and not ticktop is taken its places an better. There are vines, anan there are ticktops with fine energy yeah, but it's never. I don't thinkit'll ever reach the same. Fine, a...

...special men. Fine, has a lot of like,but fi ithin isrthink talk is in Thi Same O. now, no I mean tick. Tock ismore popular than vine. Ever was really okay. Do you guys use ticktock? No, Iyes do you. Have I tto? No, do you just WATC? I just go through E, Wash Yeah No,and I go on to CACO times to watch hat's Yor at 'm. Gonna. Tell you that,oh, I think David shows same as everything else. You guys Gonta MakeTig tolks for the show. toally gooduttheeveryone will see how grossthe studio Werkin Yo all the dances, which are the most fun Iwas like Fort on the Tuesday Ohgi, would pay the Setavu do the Geto,Oh Tho, there's another thing I was going to say, so I was very nervous to come on thispodcast of stuff ias, making if I C fa that, but really neither I doesn't takete to my podcast. Okay. Also, these boys pull me out of contextand everyte. As David said it wasbut. I don't listen to podcast. I had todownload the PODCAST AP just to listen to you guys, but what I say is thatTick Tock is the antithesis of podcast, because it's short, it's visual andyou're reasing. Other peoples sounds that makes me that makes me dislike it.I love it, but I don't want my do that I ta just like Youi Know Tina podcast,but also I don't like multi tasking. I feen lot of people listen to podcast,that's true yeah, while they're driving or like working out or whatever yeah,and I don't like that. Yeah take time. Gi holds my attention right, but youcan't watch O Tik. You can't you're not going to watch ti talk, whilt, you'redriving, oh no tatit's! Only for that use right, so I think they filleddifferent niches. Then Oh, but definitely another reason I don't likepodcast entirely is because a lot of them are very educational and I'mtalking of clasters yeah podcast are very idermes. I like funny things andto tolps, usually funny aright lean a dance so progest going to the podcastthat I listen to are usually either like the maw story hour, weth theirstories or like comedy podcasts or occasionally Political Wut like if I'mgonna. If I'm going Ta get Poltical Duse, I'm going NA, do it fromnewspapers or yeah, I'm agreeing with you I'm doing in a really strange way: uisaoversus watching, like a fifteensecond loop, which is Bot something which and also it's fun. When you'relike. I have five minutes to kill before class, because you can justcroll befor you page for like twenty five Ti, tocks and then Gog to past youcan scroll a youn consume. It vest you don't have to yeah, but you guys areboth cal majors yeah. So what do you think about? I mean how much time do you think you spent aday watching Nethlix? I don't often I usually watch like twoepisodes of machela day like fory exsode yeah like hour long, so I'vebeen N Sabrena lately great new season, but I spent like five hours on tick tockstraight really. Yes, that's interesting. Fi Nos, I think the drawof podcast t me is that you can do them and either like thereas, some that Ireally like that. I will like I listen to him a lot on airplanes when I'mflying. Okay, but like I think the draw for me, isthat you can listen to them and enjoy them and come away with the intormation,but also just like, enjoy listening to them, but also be doing other thingswhich you can't do watching tickcocks rearly, but you cando with like Netflix. That's where I was sowing about. That is that I thinkthere's a similar kind of like entertainment, value there, ID Nou,that you could ignore it, but still enjoy it right. You can like put it onhis background, but you don't have to focus but visuabl as fun SOM. Youprobably like it. I like all this new shit, but you know what I do. I watchYoutu videos that as GE sometimes Yeah Li e is you playYouto videos and just listen Bo like a watc like knowing that there's a visualto watch, but you don't need to always watch it because its someone's talkingabout something you know what kind of Youtube do you want your ju? I know HorHeso. I watch a lot of shit on via games. Theres Aina me I'd like topause. This conversation Reath, quick, so David could confess something on air.What are you confessing? Youalrea nos you know. INTEN ten years I've played four hundred daysof world of WORAS. David has spent over a year of his lifeplaying World Warcraft, I'm still Isin your younger than everyone else.Courage, Dateit! So I of IEET IT bcause. I used to playlike on a professional setting and Y have to keep up yeah and like, but I watch a lot oflike people, PLA yer explaining sit, and Ijust listen to the background. I mean...

...that makes sense because, like I watch,I watch a lot of soccer videos of like highlights and game reels and things,but you have to watch those. You know what I mean, I guess in thesinstructions or whaever the video games or like what elsethat example. Like said, you watch video where you wash ayou, do, watch video game youtobers and do much video game utobers, but I don'tplay video games y. that's what I think it's funny, but thatw's othink. That'sprobably why it's ones again, very visual. For me, I like watch right.That's true! I don't! I don't know what they're saying if I would just listento them. What I usually watch on Youtube is actually the Bonafiti testkitchen and I watch Bradley Ony Cook all the time and that's my favoritething in the entire world. But I would you W. would you listen to that without?Not at all? It's so fun because it's visual and they use like weird stufflike stuff I fan makme, maybe that's just like a person by person, leryou're, a visual person, I'm a very visual person yea for sor tiks,probably Audo is fuck. That's whythat's! Why work this wasthiswhole podcast Wahle operation was your idea Soyougo on the Airplanenyo and youLisnthi odcst itatsoetingstimulating, it's not stimulating enough. I justlike what do you mean, but yes, unless ours, we an excuse, explosions toexplosiores thekids. Here it's fun and exciting. Totalk about Tik Talk. You know. I can't wait ad an explosion endo when I justsaid that. Oh there, you GOFOR, okay and then to completely want a thetopic, but also talk about Tictalk, because we talking about China LivonaVirus, Oh yeah, like there's otof stuff on tick, talk where they'll, postticktolks talking about the virus and they're like racist igets like Chinesepeople. Have you heard that apparently people are closing borders of China nowto yeah have y the US strongly saying: Don't Flyr there an they're banningthere a banning places to play? I'm not going to ask anyone, but I've heardpeople say they don't want to go to class, because there are Chinese peoplein the class which is very herolist and forget your best Su comrect can thersget your list. I just go to classman orue. I know it is, but that's the thing Goddamagdi we talk about racism. Thisis he did you know what I think you're making I don't. I can't spe for David.I think I Beng a little looser because you're on the podcast, I wouldn'tsomeone else- Okayi've been very good friends with David and Nick sincefreshman year. So I hope we're giving you some interesting content, because I,before we started it, we were sitting and giggling for about. I I didn't. Igenuinely didn't think we would be able to record this Ond, but I love these boys. Why wer the Lin thing this o about theracism and Cronovitus wwhat? Isn't the Chinese government shutting that Shitdown of six OC? It is ohothe Ye Bue, stuffo theing. Is that there's alsoit's like? Not necessarily Chinese people posting about it? It's peoplefrom other countries using the coronavirus to be like right talking about Chinese people orAsian people, N Jewer. Isn't it the case, though, like if, if one of us gotit, they read somewhere- and I heard someone say this like if you're healthy and like relativeyoung, we know whatever like if you're in a healthy place like can't youpurtis it just like a flu, it's kind of like a Strin of the flu. The issue withit is that it's spread super easily. It has like a fourteen day like dormantperiod. So what can happen the reason it's kind of like scary, for people asthat I could have it and not show signs of having the cronavives for fourteenwe're all like a foot away, fror each other, exactly where you feel fuckig. Iwant t get out. Ofthi Hay Inou. I thatther signs outside of China itself,which is quate tening, but the US did not acknowledge it as grigt an issueuntil about like a day after some in ten miles from my home and Kelly, Godgot it. Someone at my sister, I siter GOS to northeaster. I don't remember ifit was confirmed coronavirus, but someone at her school undan person gotquarantined and they had to report like all the places they've been theyreporded the tha one of the terminals at the airport, Boston, Logan, andeveryone was like that sthe international airport, who is it racism Wut? I read Somwher to that. A lot ofthe deaths from the virus is coming from. What isit called the Chinese government? If youar the city you know know what is itcalled when you've, not when your immune system, before you can get thisthis virus? Isn't there something where, if your mmune systems alreadycompromised? What is that word like...

...auto amuntifii Ye aerspeople unable tofight that right? I Tike people who might have like an illness or have likemedicine that they take and it like, lowers their ai because I don't know ifthis is right or not, but I read or somewhere that fact maybe youve seen a maybe this isalso basis in Stertoo Suk, but I read that a lot. The reason why he'sbecoming such a problem in China? Maybe just because they have more people, soit's more of whatever, but a lot of the people who are dying. Have that thing? What as it a Lik ooneed to seeyeah, which I don't think is maybe not a unique to people an China, but justbecause there's more people and that's where it started because of the density,I mean we're also freaking out of the US here about we forked out abouteverything. But do you remember also like this whole, like racism and like avirus? Spreading also happened. Remember who was the soccer playertalking about Ebola when she was pregnant? Oh God, in Iu? All? Yes, we no what's her name, it was a goalie, it wasn't. Ceger yeah SHEU got benche ouff, I don't know,but everyone knows what I'm talking about. She basically was saying: She'slike I'm Goinnto wear face mask I'm not going to talk to Im because I'm GOINTAget you boa, and everyone was like Hu ner, Harris, Franch and Campbell. Iknow you're talking about. I can't remember who I can't remember Las, but,like the same thing had happened, we o Thatxaly racist to say that did thathappen during Zeka? Maybe it was eit. Wasn't El Yeah Di,don't remember any like superpronounced racism during the Seco thing. What endsup happening is that in the stadium, while she was playing, the whole crowdstarted chanting it that right. I do remember that yeah. What do we does?The US ever get anything you need to the US. I think ITHINK UNIQE to th USyeah, like it's a matter of a everything we have. We take te SID TOBASITY EI. I, like it's easier for some like kinds of viruses to spread inthings were like. The US is much more spreadout. Unless you're have you everead ever played like play or eheard. Youdon't want to start in the US. Everyone's spread out an we cann,everyone's very separated, so it's harder for things to spread widesamplus, there's better Infrastra. There was A. I saw that recently thatwas like countries that are best prepared for virus outbreaks and T itwas like. The US was topof. The list hat's because we're all German foesyeah we're Al so far away from each other ant all time, but we also havelike the medical infrastar for the other Vero Tis Fuck Januay, I saw T,did you see twitters account ROK Jan? What are they? Tweet to twitter accounttweeten, it's still January Dat. I toght implying that, like this monthhas been fucked like what's the year goingnover as it's fever. Yeah I meanyou got I knowis finally Femirane, but it's finally te were I Australia, Hay Fer rt, you have youve got a lot,but Barmin ev been we've been one day into February two days in of February,and we've already had brigs thit finally happened. This is this. Is The brexast episodefor the Record Yeah Shit? I saw video of them taking down the flag in, likethe e council- and I was like this is surreal. I was talking about on the carearlier. It's the same sureal feeling of like when srump got elected. For me,Scotland is going to is already pushing for another independence referendumOrerthi fast. They move very fast ther man, people! Well, they on, in the lastselections, the NASA cottage o the SNP or whatever Scottish nashals party, onelike an Unpressen amount of scenes like they've got dowe you towards Scotland.Did you pick up a vibe of like my aen, Oh yeah, I went to Scottish Parlon YeahIer fucking Ito. They hate the Bra the cast Wul, you tour, the fucking YPEdbur Castle. You get that vibe e guys, like yeah man like now they're gettingcare going through they're going to do everything they can to becomeindependent again and Johnson is not GOINGNA. We e need towat happen. It'sgoing to be fun, don't know much about. Can Youedocating? Not Really? I got you ready anthing. I got you wi a tell you ithis.The phrase is very intresting. I'm Cuousi e phrase of what I don't knowshit about it other thanother than ready. I have these really close familyfriends and the husband Wif's a couple and thehusband used to work with my dad when they were like early Youngis and theylive in London. So what I want to brod to my internship I ran into then I metthem and they were talking about. They wanted to know like that was rightafter her trum Bot elected, so they wanted to know a was it like yea? Is it polrize? Youknow, and they told me a story where somebody asked them: Oh hows braks it and theyarthis is way like years before. When it was a hot topic of Tring Tat. Wewant to do break it like just the I...

...just the idea of theapact, and so theywere like telling them, and I guess it's a very polarized heated like yeahdefintso. They responded with house trump and half the room was pro hehapper was not and they just went fucking off, but that's the level intheir Mu, like people were fucking like what Dolaghi inthe world causing thesekinds of decisions to be made. I'm asoseology made Sur yeahalagn't peoplewho feel forgotten quote unquote, want there yeah I mean, I think it's thesame. It's the same contingent of people in the UK that it is in the USright. It's like Oo, Onis made the Ukpe Rad again, it's the same exact yeahkind of Xenaphobia nationalsphere. I don't know I mean myfocus is more American politicss. I think it's interesting to compare thove,but I will say that I don't think anyone can make theargument that this is a good idea. This point I mean I remember whenI was in Scotland for that five month period or whatever like it, wassupposed to happen like three times while I was there yeah and they keptpushing it back because they couldn't get a deal but like on trade berymenic things. But I rememberI remember realizing like shit like if Braisen happens, while I'min Scotland I'm not going to be able to fly to other EU companies because alltheir their negotiations with like airlines e gotta, be fucked ut like I,it's like their Comoni is going to tank like I don't now build into the system.Yeah and it's Omplety oppl is crazy. It's like talking about like e theriots in France, yeah absolutely which are awesome, but I mean I also. I alsodon't think the Jleson, the yellow us, Oh God, I an the end of this one. Iwhen I was in Paris with my mom, we went, we decided to go to the iffeltower and we checked out the anple tower and then we were walking away andwe tried to go to the Shokat Ter. I don't know we Tryi togo o a train, stop to go back to our apartment and, like French national army officers infull riot here were like running past us and my mom, and I were like nop ut.We got a ooper and booked it out of out O that area. It was by the Arcitry ofit was really bad. But that's what I was going to say right is that, likethe nationalism in the US in the UK is happening in Germany is happening inFrance is haping in bracill like it's a yeah. That's why? I hope you almost finallyfinish is the SPACEEX project. I did a whole presentation on spaceaxind. My introcom course only because I support it because NASA doesn'tactually exist exist anymore. The way that Nashakes Natha natioally exist ishaving a budget and funding private projects right yeah, but you don'tneceusty need to fund it. Yeah have you heard youll on must cannoe. HeEve Song Grimes is influencing him a have. You listened to it. I have notlistened to Jo, we taled about othe podcast, a I playeda little bit played on the t yeah. Well, no, I want to know now you can listento it on tha o Plug Yeah Yeah swatcing. This is whatshot ot at you onyou're, crazy at the musk, the muskoks allright, on that Bon showon that bombshell. Yeah we'RE gonna end this episode. Thank you for coving on.So thank you for having me as much lesser rocking. I thought it wasFunactualy Forgivin archill all right, thanks for listening to Nitg, againnext Sunday kind of DA, so.

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