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Episode 3 · 1 year ago

S2E3: Doubt

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Does anyone really know how to use LinkedIn? Is Elon Musk a hero or a villain? How can we make amusement park rides even better? Tune in as we answer these questions and more with special guest Sidney Senita!

Sorry, don't worry about it,Jimmy. My dreams were shattered years ago, for many years ago. How oldare you, Bit Vibey? Okay, my bitch look like acky Vicky.Make cosmo pull up with the good pepoop poop on a bitch if theyget the shift in the cooler. We're here. We're gonna come up witha Catchi intro. Yeah, we do. We said like an interlide or somethingwe should definitely have. I just I feel like we say welcome backat the start of every episode. I again, hello all, Yah,was naked, David. You guys know the format. There's two of us. We just come in with two topics and, yeah, then we don'tknow what they are. And today we'll have a guest as well. Yeah, sounds good. Social media as always at Nick David Show. Check thisout. All right, let's just jump right into a hip into it.Make this concess. So I got two topics. My first one I knewyou have linkedin. I do. So what do you? What is yourexperience been with it? When did you get it? I don't. Idon't understand it. Okay, I'll start there. I have it. I'vehad it for a while I'm mostly use it to look at jobs and applyit jobs. Hmm, I think it's useful for that, for that kindof purpose. I have no idea how to use the like. What's likepost and share your accoplishments, like, I don't get why. It's asocial platform as well as a have you ever gotten an internship for a jobfrom linkedin? No, I don't think so. So that's why I wantto talk about and what you were kind of saying is what I'm what Ihave here. So, yeah, I guess Microsoft bott linked in. okaycently, not, not like a couple of years ago. I just I justassumed they already owned it. Yeah, well, the reason why they're reallyprevalent with applicate applying to jobs and stuff is because Microsoft has this whole recruitingAlgorithm Platform thing that they merged with linkedin. Okay, acquire them, and that'swhy I think about three years ago when we were first years. That'swhy there's this crazy of like Oh, you got to get linkedin because likeright, I'm telling you, it's here and like, like didn't look somuch different now, and that's what that was got. Yeah, he picksour career planning center here. It was big. It's yeah, they stillI think we'll take linked poops and like offer that. Yeah. So Iwas thinking about it because as really seniors and stuff, and I'm sure manyof our listeners are seniors or maybe juniors or in college or out of college. You have linked in. They basically propertacially everyone's listening is a career wantsto find something out there. Like it's a very weird I just I asI search for jobs and save stuff and trying right next those people, it'sso like I just think it's missing something or it can't be that easy becausein my experience, right when I put like I don't put. I've neverposted anything social right on. Like I know people, I feel, likepeople who are successful or famous or good at what they do. They poststuff like today at such and such company, we've done extra and Z and thena bunch of people like it or whatever. But other than that,half of the stories I see, and maybe it's because people I'm connected with, are all like like one person was like my friend left this job thatshe loved to take another job because the salary Annuel Sawars tenzero dollars more andI show. That's I think I saw that. Yeah, and it's notworth it and bolt. I was like okay, but it's that kind ofstuff that's all like don't give up who you know, be who you are, take the opportunity you want to take. Bula Blah, which is great.I look like I've posted on I think once and it was like thesame thing I posted on face. It was just literally like I'm looking fora job. Put me up. Yeah, I don't understand why, like searchingfor jobs. Yes, and I have you ever Gotte like a recruitermessage from Oh, yeah, like, I don't, I don't know.I haven't ever responded to them. I've looked into what their company is stuff, but it's just like how can you be? It just doesn't seem likea good opportunity. If somebody reaches out to me, well, not evenwas a degree like yeah, I don't know what kind of recruits were reachingout to you, but the ones that I get are all like come jointhis accounting firm that I'm starting or like working on, and it's like Idon't know if you've looked at my resume and but like you don't want mein your accounting firm, like that's an awful I you. It's basically verygeneralized jobs that like pretty much any, yeah, undergrad graduate can do right, and I just like like having done I did like an intern internship,a broad program and I connected with my...

...colleagues that were on, like myco workers ever on Linkedin, sure, because it wasn't all of them right, and there were a lot of people I really like, the people thatI really worked with that had really cool roles and liked me. Of course, not have linked in accounts, but the people I did really know,but I kind of knew of them because, like, because I was going tosay that's maybe something that we can't speak to you as like as youhave work more jobs, I meet more people. You want to stay intouch professionally so that they can tell you if their new opportunities in the fieldor that you're interested in. Yeah, and like, I mean so mybut if I don't, if they don't have like them, like you're sayingthat it's like yeah, so my dad has linkedin, because I think it'sa it's like a thing like you have to have being in this company,like the bank. Everyone have linkedin for professional whatever and he never touches it. He doesn't have a profile picture. Yeah, on the thing and hetells me that all he gets his like young people he meets or whatever,or like people like Hey, like you know William, like I connect me, because, like the thing is that is you know, pretty much he'swhere he is. He said he's not looking for stuff. Sure the youngpeople like oo if I connect with him. so He's wanted to help other people. He's not on go, he's all right, he's on a byChoy. He doesn't need to touch it. Oh, he's reading stuff for isyou sink goers? I got which like so then my other thing isyou want to build a network with people that you that might be able tohelp you in some professional setting, shirt in the world. Right. SoI got like can't be CMB, which what does that stand for? Biologicstry, thelecular biology who want to connect as be and I'm like, I'm sorry, like I know, just because they know you from Worcester. Yeah,yeah, and I don't know if that's because the apex people told me,like you get a linkedin and add everyone you know. Right, okay,I did do that and I was like this is stupid. Like, Idon't. I haven't used any. I mean, I will set so Ijust posted this thing, but looking for a job recently, HMM, Iposted on Linkedin. I got an email from the father of a girl I'veknown since like elementary school. It's telling giving me a suggestion of some likea reach out to HMM. That, I think, is the only thingthat came with it, but that I did. I posted the same thingon facebook. Be I was like, you know what, there's a communitypeople that I that know me better, right, and like are a littlemore connected, and I got like six people, like three of my mom'sfriends, like one person I interned with, telling me about a fellowship. LikeI just think, I don't. I don't think that. Yeah,I'm with you. I don't think Linkedin is all that. Yeah, Imean, like, I guess I'm going to this and you might be goingto like this, this Communication National Communication Association conference thing. Right, maybewe Chicago. They are and like and you then you get their linkedins orwhatever. But like, I feel like it's just I don't know, itfeels very strange and I'm curious about like the future of what you know,maybe it'll turn helpful? Well, I don't think there's no way. Linkedinas it is, stays like like it is for this Nice Generation. Whatis cool, though, is that they got this feature where, if you'reat like a convention or a conference with people, you can on the APP. It's kind of like a air drop of Earlton. So instead of asheg business cards, like you'd bring your start selling tap phones and that's thatis pretty such like an electronic hand, yeah, hand met this person,which I'm like that's cool, but like also, can you imagine if you'reif you get the opportunity to beat someone really high up and you're like hey, could you like take out your phone? Walk Right, yeah, like comeon, and that's what that's a weird I would just run around withmy phone try to hit as many people's pones as I could. Exactly.So I just it was something that came up in my in my head.I think it's yeah, I don't know if they're trying to reach to toomuch and have too many features right. That M because I don't want tolike talk smack, but I see people who post like every freaking day aboutsomething they have the unique opportunity to do and whatever and like like it looksgood. They got the Nice Picture, they got certain nail, they gotthe paragraph of text. But like, also, I don't know how muchthat contributes or does right other than, I mean maybe it's sick. SaysHey, I'm active and I'm looking for something, or you know, Imean. But and then they also have other features, like the whole easyapply thing where you can do, yeah, just click and put in your phonenumber attached a resume inside it, like you nobody's do that. Overapplying through an application. Well, I don't know. I've been asking people. I've never done I feel like that's like the get up, get likefree, quick and easy way to I don't know. I will because assoon as you do it, you know it's just going to a spit atdatabase that's full of like hundreds of those. Yeah, and I feel that feelswrong, but I don't know. I genuinely I have no idea froma proladed professional level of putting an actual application and it makes it more Ihave to assume it does. Makes it...

...makes you stand out a little more. I don't know, because you know, if you know, let us know. US know. If you know, let us know. Yeah, yeah, good for thought. Interesting clankedin. All right. All right, somy first topic is about a gentleman. I feel like last season there weretwo kind of figures that came up throughout or podcast a lot. Yeah, and I'm going to talk about one of them again. It's not Kanye. Okay, do you do? You know who I'm picking of? Isit a comedian? No, it's not the good known and then no,wait, no, so I would like to talk about our friend. Youknow him, you love him, the Hazes, Elon Musk, but Iwas close. Yes, yeah, you were very close. So I don'tknow if you've seen anything about this, but must, it feels weird callingyou just musk. I feel very uncomfortable doing that. Yeah, so elawmust just released an EDM track. Have you seen those or heard it?No, you play snip it off gas. Yeah, we can pause here andI'll play a little. Yeah, so it's a it's like a house. It's a piece. It's actual music, which is unexpected. You go onthe platforms. It's on soundcloud. I don't know if he's uploaded anywhereelse. It's called don't doubt your vibe. Your is you are sure yeah,and it's blowing up just a little because it's law on musk, right, so anything he does gets attention. The Guardian has reviewed it already andthe headline for that review was, and I quote, bringing a rectile dysfunctionto the masses. And then and then of the reviewer went on to callit a want to be danced for Banger that somehow manages to doubt its ownvibe. So they hate it. Everyone hates it. Well, that's reallyimpressed. That's a very impressive that writers Auso. Yeah, that's wherever,whoever put that piece together. I wish I had the name pulled up,but do not. So this actually isn't the first time that Elon Musk hasput out music. It flew a little under the radar last year, buthe put out this kind of very autotune comedy song called our Ip Harambee,where he wraps. Yeah, it's interesting, but that one's definitely supposed to bea joke, and the one that he chose dropped this is probably not, I think, which makes it different. And so that that got me thinkingabout just Elon Musk in general, because I think I've been trying tofigure out how I feel about him for a while, because he definitely seemslarger than life, right. I mean, like his parents are. His father'sa South African engineer and his mother is a Canadian model. Nutrition missed. His name is Elon Reeve Musk, which is just in itself like cartooncharacter ish. He's dating a Canadian grunge musician called named grimes. So there'sthat. And then, like he's responsible involved in everything from like paypal toTesla to SPACEX, like he's he is, and I don't know if this issad or really cool, but he is the probably the closest thing wehave right now to a real life iron man, hmm right, which iskind of strange to think about. But then at the same time as allthat stuff, he's done some really questionable or like kind of shitty things.So, like he essentially stole Tesla, like the company from the og founders. His business is lose millions of dollars every year. Working conditions inside histesla plants are supposed to be like obscenely bad, and then you just reactskind of poorly to being challenged at all, like they're while back when he wasproposing plans for the hyperloop that he wanted to build. There were acouple public transmit officials who basically criticized him and his response to them was literallyjust to say you're idiots and and nothing else. He's accused. There wasone report of that. He accused of being a pedophile because he pissed himoff, but there was like no evidence or anything for it. So,like there's this I think a lot of people either really like Elam Musk orreally dislike elam must and I haven't decided. So I guess I was just curioushow you feel about him, because this last this latest news about thissong is just it's making me think that he's just lost his mind at thispoint. Yeah, I feel like the creative, I mean the creative geniuses, and like people who too crazy things in the world are I mean there'salways something a little bit particular right, but their minds, and I don'tmean that necessarily a bad way, but sure, steve jobs was like butgiant asshole. He had moments like, you know, like the I meanyou got Elon Musk, yeah, I mean Jeff Bezos, I feel likeZuckerberg. And part of it, yeah, part of it, I think,is because they have all this. There's a magnifying glass on all thesepeople. But all and also they have...

...a lot of influence and power andmoney and control over there, right, don't made and that some but yeah, like it's I mean because I just I think, I mean genuinely,as far as I can tell you, one must is just a dude,right, like he's a very smart dude, but it's just that he's just aguy with a lot of money. Like if, I if you werein that position and you were just rich beyond your dreams and you had thatkind of level of fame, why, why not really suit trying? Iwould totally, I mean I would do all that. Like there's like theI mean going off their iron man example, like, I mean, I'm intoo. He thinks he's gonna die or whatever because chemical talks, andso he like totally start. Like he drives his fone race car, hehas good team, he drives, he raises a car, he throws partieseverywhere. He like, I mean he has this moment of like I gotto do everything I got to do before. You know what I when I waslooking up, when I was like drawing down notes for this, Ifound out that I forget who was. Someone working on the original iron manproject sent Robert Downey Jr to spend some time with Elon Musk and hang outwith him to like really the send of what that person is like. Yeah, like attitude and which I thought was really interesting. Yeah, I don'tknow, it's just it's just weird to think because like in the movie withme, yeah, I think you wanted into yeah, yes, in orthree was like like, Tony, I'd like you to meet and he's likeyeah, yeah, we'll catch up, and it was like a cameo.Yeah, that a fund raisers. That's yes, yes, okay. Yeah, I just like I think a lot of people are either like I loveElon Musk, he's gonna Save the planet and humanity and like prevent ultimate destruction, and then the other half of people are like no, he's going tohe's the one that's going to kill us all, like this is or he'sjust a bad person, like manipulating people, and I don't know that either ofthose are good takes. Yeah, so I just wanted to kind ofthrow that out there and see what you were thinking about it. I didday the test las thing is I I really appreciate the Tesla thing. Yeah, and now he's I don't know, he got kicked out, right,did he get? Yeah, he got outsted. He still has some creativeJUD design over. I don't know, maybe he did whatever, but thatI respected. Amire that project, right, but it's interesting. Yeah, there'sjust something off about I'd rather have those kind of people that not sharks. I feel like you can't have someone who's like perfect and also does allthese right rack crazy inventions. You need you need both. Yeah, like, what does lad been as big if he hadn't taken control from the originalfounders? Are greators? Like, I have no idea. I don't know, because that was a start, right. Yeah, was that? He washe known before that? Oh, I think he's. He did paypal, he did coding for Paypal, he did cooding. Yeah, but thisblooms that. But tes well, yeah, I think it's what? Because noone cares about money transfer business, but people care about self driving cars. Yeah, so you want must interesting. Let us know what you think interesting. We're going to take a quick break and then we'll come back anddo our last few topics. We're back or back. So my second topicinvolves universal fixtures. Me For socidios. Kate tg these yes thirsting crews willlast year, yeah, season, she was in la and I went downthere and I was like well, we should do something, you know whatever. So I went down there for the day. We went to aversal studiosbecause I was like okay, like that's something to do and I haven't beenthere since I was like really little, right, and I was like thething to do because I like movie production stuff and like they have sense thereand it was a cool thing, but ultimately as a giant money grabbing theme. Sure, you know. Yeah, and so we went on like theHarry Potter world on the ride thing and like walked around and all the stuffand like it was it was fun, you know, like nothing to superright home about but the set and the onwards thing, and that was reallycool. But it got me thinking about now they release a trailer for fastand furious nine. Yeah, just calling you fast night. It just looksso stupid, like they're all of a sudden saying that VIN diesel has abrother, uh Huh, and the brother is Johnston. So you know,you know, I'm gonna have to put...

...them with music. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so, yeah, I would have watched it all that, like I'm excited for but also what the hell, you know.But it got me thinking about why we, like I, Kate and I,didn't go on all of the rides and do all the stuff, right, because it took literally three hours at least to get on to yeah,I got sober, like it was, and so I was actually watching somepeople like recorded like videos of them going on other rides because they're just curious. Yeah, and they were really bad video. No, like videos ofthe reviews in the comment sections on you sort like everyone was like this sucks, like whatever, like it was not immersive all this stuff. Yet theadvertising and like the hype around Universal Studios, right, is huge and to certainextent I've also seen stuff of the Disneyland. It is new world aboutthat. So liked the new star wars movies, the yeah, like thelife size bloody and Falcon I'm in there and stuff. I was just atDisney where you were there. Right. Yeah, so, how was yourexperience there? It was. It was. So I kind of okay, thiswas my first time at Disney world. Okay, once I got past thewhole like just the immediate dystopian vibes like they make you you have toscan your fingerprint to get into each park. Yeah, so once I got pastall of that, like the band that you used for everything, Ihad a good time. But I definitely get what you're saying about the rise, because there were rise that like yeah, I think we waited in line foran hour or something to do like a toy story thing, MMM,and it was just it was like maybe six minutes of spinning own thing andthen everyone got out and it was like really, that's what we waited for. Like so I don't get. I don't get that, but you liked, I know you like toy story and so you're like, oh, wegotta do that because that's right. I guess it's like a nostalgia thing.Yeah, but I will say the Star Wars exhibit that I went through wasreally cool. It was cool. It was very cool seeing the Falcon upclose. That's cool. And the exhibit. We did a couple, but theywere they were I can't speak for universal, but the Star Wars onesthat I did the rise were pretty well done, but they were also newer, obviously. So right. So I I just wonder what I'm curious about, like if you could innovate these kind of team parks and stuff with thenext thing, what would it be? Because, okay, we have likeI started out with like ruler coasters and stuff, and then all of asudden you have this Imax, right, I mean universal. They started this. That basically like where you like I got and like as if you shitin a movie theater and then all of a sudden it's like rose or anairplane. Yeah, yeah, they have like the facts and you've wind andyou actually feel like you're flying. It's really cool but also like really chippy. But I think that's innovation. Like what's the next? I don't know. I hate but I think that's where we're going to be for a while. It's like immersive Vr, kind of all senses engaged. He's we areeven going anywhere? I don't know, but I mean like like that airplanething. It was D P yeatly. Yeah, I mean no glasses,like it was like right, you were in like a there was one ofthose in the star wars of it where you got, we got. Iactually got split up from the people I was with, but you entered likea pod, like a ship and you each had a different task, asign. So two people were steering, two people were gunners and two peoplewere engineers, and that each had. It was like a shit that waslike rocking back and forth with D Shit coming at you. But then eachperson also had like the captains, the piles were staring, the gunners werelike aiming and trying to shoot, done tie fighters, and it's really theengineer at the back. It was like we had to launch harpoons to grabcargo, but also anytime any of the buttons lit up on the wall nextto us, we had to hit them to turn them off to like fixthe ship. MMM. So it was actually a really cool kind of experiencebecause you were like all your senses were engaged at once, you know whatI mean, like you could hear, you can see, you felt everything, but you're also thinking and trying to like all right, then, whatthey I just figger that what they need to do is they need to elevatethese escape rooms into this kind of shit. There's an escape room in DC,but I wot that. I've done it a couple times. What they'vehad different rooms. One of the rooms is a V are escape room.Yes, like you put goggles on and you can see things that you wouldn'tbe able to overwise, the possibilities that are endless. Yeah, and alevel of immersion. Yeah, but I don't think. I don't think justa VR ride where you're going through. I mean that's cool for like awow factor of like how realistic. But what if you were on a ship? Yeah, you'll lily foun getting like you could not like it was amission, right, and if you fucked up and like didn't hit the buttonin time or didn't hit the right sequence, like you're done and you either haveto come back and do it, like it's it's sir, stressful,like training exercise, you know, to me, like and it's like anaccomplishment thing, like I like, just since she was a I strive escaperoom, right, right, yeah,...

...what if it's I did that?I think. That's why I think that's what we're moving towards. Is Okay, that's what I like. Identity, like or not, identity base,but like role playing V are we like to be in relations exactly, likethat's why we played. I know you weren't there, but we played secretHitler. We overnight and I heard of H and I got really intense,like to the point in again, former guest took a shirt off, whichthen caused me to appoint him chancellor, which that ended the game because heturned out to be fascist. But well played, I and if you're listening, but like I think, I think that, I mean maybe it's acertain type of person, but I think that we people generally respond really wellto games like that, where you've got like a role or an identity.It's I mean it's why, I like dungeons and dragons was so popular.Right. Yeah, I think it's. I think that's what we're moving to, towards his dand on the next level. Yeah, I can you imagine playingis like a door for whatever, and then you see like an actualfucking monster in front of you that you have to like cast spells at.would be tripy. Yeah, okay, I think that's what we're going I'mlooking to look forward. Cool, all right. My last topic is alittle, a little heaviera. So this past week marked seventy five years sincethe Soviet liberation of Auschwitz. This is a really, really big turn andtoad and I get that, so bear with me, but there have beena lot of different kind of commemorative events happening on campus, off campus,like everywhere. It's just a really big deal and I've noticed a pattern inthese kinds of displays that I want to talk about, and that pattern isthat, including including a the this place that Hellal or Jewish association here putup, they all include trigger warnings and content warnings, and I don't knowhow I feel about that because, on the one hand, right I getthat content warnings are supposed to be about. They're supposed to protect people from relivingtraumatic experiences or like getting put in fight or flight anxiety inducing situations.So I understand that, I guess. I just don't know if that stillapplies in the situation. It feels different because, like, everyone knows whatthe Holocaust is right like it's a hard thing to avoid. It's such afamous and large scale thing, and I think that makes it less personal than, like, say, sexual assault or other kind of traumatic experiences, andso if it's less personal, I just don't know who these content warnings areprotecting, especially because the people putting them up are the ones that you thinkwould want the warning. Like, you know, hello, putting up contentwarnings for non Jewish people is an interesting kind of flip on what they're usuallyfor. And also, like I just minorities, Jews included, that allminorities don't get any kind of warning when they're harassed or assaulted or killed orwhatever. So why would you give everyone else that warning? Why? Ireally feel like the nature of this event makes trugger warnings obsolete. Like,I think all they're doing at this point is is enabling ignorance, like you'rethey're allowing people to avoid confrontation with what's happening from them. That's just somethingI've been thinking about. I've seen it everywhere, so I just wanted tobring that up. I've only talked about it with a couple people, but, like, I just don't yeah, I don't know if trigger warnings arealways her content warnings. I think they have to be applied correctly. SoI know that, like, for two of my classes this semester we're dealwith a lot of watching lots of film and looking out of content. That'sa revestor's give content warning and trigger warnings for right. But they stress theimportance of like, if you feel it, if you feel like you might gettriggered or something like who you can be room. But it's important towhat I think sticks out what he says is like it's important to view theseimages, address the situation, like understand, talk about what was going on orwhat is going on, because we're looking all kinds of stuff, right. But that's definitely changed from even freshman year here, because I don't remember, maybe even software. I don't remember. I don't remember seeing a lot ofthis kind of stuff until my junior like trigger warning, sugger right ingeneral, and even on like social media. I'll gone posts and they have algorithmsto say like content warning, few and you click yes, I getsblurred out, you know. Right. I I think especially for this likeyou're saying, like that's I don't know if it's maybe because in the caseof a worcester in the pit or I see it, that's like such acentral place in campus. Shark. Maybe if there's tours or something like,it's so it's that should open. That's a consideration, is tours. Butif you hadn't like Eber or like academic...

...building or had a room like oreven a place in the pit, that's maybe not where the spot light is, right, even though that's like the board of you know other one otherexamples are you seeing? And is that the place that we were talking about? I mean mostly, mostly that, but also just like like even onSocial Media Post that are like right, surgar warning, this is about soand so. Then you have to they've hit enter so many times that youhave to like physically open the post to read it this way. I meanlike you have to. Yeah, even small things like that because, like, I don't know, like it's not a fun thing. I'm not sayingit's a fun like right, I want to see that, but I saidit's a new it's like a kid's like a content warning culture, like it'sa yeah thing, like what like deemed does, like you walk by it, like if someone puts up photos of something like grtuitously or explosively sexual,HMM, and someone there's no content warning or cover, and someone walks by, as had that experience, it's like, Oh shit, that might trigger likefight or flight and like put them in a really bad spot. Right, if it's a photo of Auschwitz, everyone knows what's happened, learn aboutit in school. You want by and you go, oh, that's reallyimpressing. That was shitty. That's socked, but it's not going to like putyou in an anxiety attack. You know what I mean. For mostpeople what it does. I mean it could, but the people that youthink it would do that for are the ones that are putting the piece ofso I yeah, I see. I just think something about it feels differentto me. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I thinkit's interesting to think about. Right, it's interesting. All right, thatbrief shift in tone of side. We are now going to take another quickbreak and then to have our guests on. Guess Act with our guests. We'llsee you are I guess you'll hear us in a minute, in twoseconds we are with Nick and David. We have our special guests today,but one, the only Sydney, the strangler, sneda. Hello everyone,I've already been here before. I guess we're on. But look, mom, okay, we talked about a few things before you got here. I'Mgonna I'm gonna give you four things and you can pick one and then we'llfill you in your talk. Twelve four things. Yeah, a Linkedin ElonMusk theme, parks and trigger warnings. Probably don't pick trigger warnings. Butbecause I know, because it's a really depressing topic, we can talk aboutlinkedin because I have a funny story. But linked sure, my favorite storyis one of my friends. Shout up to the girl who told me this. She knows who she is. Apparently it's fun that she doesn't actually useit for job applications. She just sends knotty things to her boyfriend through Linkedin. Oh, this is lizie standard. But I've also never actually used linkedin. It feels like a weird version of facebook and I don't like that.I also don't know how to use it properly and be professional about it,so I just have refused to exactly who we talk yeah, that's literally whatthey really like. Yeah, like, what would I pick my profile pictureto be like? Definitely that photo of you in a cardboard box. Yeah, okay, good. Our generations on the same page. Then it's uncomfortableand that we probably shouldn't use it, but it's also a very easy wayto find jobs. Yes, it's think it's only that's it's only redeeming factor. If you too, don't stop. Y'All. There, I'm already cutthis entire segment. I would like to be included. All right, Soudy, what do you want to talk about? Okay, I have my first topicthat I haven't tipped you guys off to you is I want to talkabout tick Tock, Tick Tock. We're talking about new age social media.Do you guys swear on the show? Oh, yes, okay, let'sgonna say Tick Tock pitches you ask the fact that it's mainly made for teenagersand the fact that now college students are abusing it and that there's like middleaged people on it who are just trying to understand. Yeah, but they'rejust trying to understand and then use it for weird reasons, like all thedoctors and things like that. Wait, how are college read abusing it?Um, it's mainly just a lot of...

...drinking and stuff, but then theyalso know there's like kids who are underage on it. So then the kidsteam drinking and they and it's like yeah, and there's like literally kids were likethirteen. Okay, you know what it's how it goes. There's weirdparts of like the APP where it's like weird things about sex. Oh that'sfun, and there's like thirteen year old kids on one Buttich can't. Yeah, but you can't consent to it because I for you page. It hasits own algorithm. So you can just there's people that are under age ofconsent and then you're just showing them something weird about sex and it's it's wait, wait, isn't it? Can you tell me what Tick Tock is?Dinant? Fine, it's like long goovine. So really, I need music andloop shit. Yeah, so it's like fifteen second, like thirty secondvideos, but it was originally musically in the US, which was then boughtout by a Chinese company, and now they've all made it to theod startedshaking his head as too, as you said, Chinese. Oh, butthat's the thing is there's stuff. There's people on Tick Tock who have nowmade a fun game of putting up stuff critiquing the Chinese government and seeing howlong it takes me to sit down at us, because it's read. Yeah, Tick Tock. We are not allowed use tick tock. They've banned theUS military using take. You're just talking out of your ass. I'm toallyserious, dude, but soldiers not allowed one. How do you do?Can you show new the on Tick Tock Oh, I'm sure not. Ialso have what the fuck do you do? But if it's a visual video thing, you talk about sex because you can pull like captions and things onthe videos. So, oh, like memes, shit, like when.Yeah, kind of that's toxic id of or like just me doing this.That is so tick Tock. That was a belt. I'm I'M gonna.I'll try to turn that audio down as much as I can, but nevergoing to listen to us. But he is so bean Taylor with his headphonesand they'll be d if I break his headphone. To talking about to cosiertalk kind of. I know it's a very different thing, but it kindof reminds me of Ye Yak. Fuck. Oh Yeah, dude, I forgotthat Yaka existed. was like more like because there was hate speech.There's a or like speech and to freshman year. Would I wasn't a regroup. Ye once once in my life, because motherfuckers were talking so loud outside, plunging and shit. I think been furly use them, and so I'mNik. I literally wrote like shut the fuck up, you know, likeGreek mother fun. No, Lod, I didn't mean that. You knowI got friends, but you said I guess it was a way to useit, an obvious yeah, and then someone responded like a little right,and I was like, oh sweet, getting blocated, getting valid the casevalue and validate fidations. And then someone else said like about the all makesand shit. They were like fuck the old wags and someone was wrong tolike their brotherhood never dies, and I was like wow, man, likethis is wow. I think. As to the underground frats, there wasn't. There was there an age thing on that? Did you have to bea certain age to use it? You just had to say you were atthe school, right, that there's no like verification. It was. No, there wasn't, but that's just like you're in this high school, you'reit this quite. So there's like there's no reason that you would want tojoin some other schools, theoretically, but like same thing, like you canpost whatever you want on there. Anyone can see it. Do you poston Tick Tock? I'm not. Made a post on Tick Tock. Ihave a few ideas. You'd be funny. I as Tick Tock thing, mytick tock at your tick. What was it? Oh, so it'syour tick. I connected it originally to my twitter which also to everyone outhere that doesn't know me. I'm a monster of the Internet. I doevery social media maverick. I love twitter is my day fend. That's whatis it? I'm pretty sure it's as Senitas a CNA TA, but nonethelessit don't need to follow me on twitter. I follow but they won't follow uson twitter. They won't follow you. But like it took my it tookmy user name, which at the time was professional napper. That's toomany characters. So it's professional nappy. Oh, it's I think it isbetter. You're not that for really, that be for the e at theend, right. Yeah, because I'm professional mapping napster. So I'll Ido is like I keep all of mine in my likes. So I dothink that's also interesting. It's like a lot of people just watch it.They don't necessarily make they don't post. It's very similar to find interesting.But like, haven't you heard of like there's a new group of people whoare coming out with like bite? Yes, I and told me about it lastweek. I'm Gott. I wish you had broke out of because it'snot fine, it's just being fake. Fine, and now tick tock istaken its places. It better. Yeah, there are vines. I mean thereare tick tocks with fine energy. Yeah, but it's never I don'tthink it'll ever reach the same. I'm...

...special man about by has a lotof like, but vine, I think, is there are tick tock is inthe same popular now? No, I mean tick tock is more popularthan ever. was really okay. Do you guys use Tick Tock? No, I yes. Do you have a tick tock? No. Do youjust watch it? Just go through a wash? Yep, now, andI go on to cockle times to watch your APP I'm gonna tell you that. Oh, I think David shows same as everything else. You Guys gonnaMake Tick Tocks for the show? Would be funny. Totally could, butthat everyone will see how gross the studio was. Retain you all the danceswhich are the most fun, like Ford on the too. Stay. OhGod, I would pay the see David do the ghetto. Oh, there'sanother thing I was going to say. So I was very nervous to comeon this podcast. Both can if it could say that, but really methat visits. It's my podcast. Okay. Also, these boys quote me outof context and everything that's stay said. It wasn't me, but I don'tlisten to podcast. I had to download the PODCAST APP just to listento you guys. But what I say is that Tick Tock is the antithesisof podcasts, because it's short, it's visual and you're reasing other people's sounds. That makes me, that makes me dislike it. I love it,but I don't want I don't want to just like you. I don't listento podcast. But also I don't like multitasking. I feel a lot ofpeople listen to a podcast. That's true, drive, yeah, while they're driving, or like working out or whatever. Yeah, I don't like that.Yeah, Tick Tock, you holds my attention, right, but youcan't watch it, tick, you can't. You're not going to watch tick talkwhile you're driving. Oh, no, that, it's only for that use. Right. So I think they filled different niches then. Oh,but definitely. Another reason I don't like podcast entirely is because a lot ofthem are very educational, and I'm talking of classes. Yeah, podcasts arevery hit or miss. I like funny things, and two talks usually funny. I'm right. Learn to dance a pleats. Today, the podcast thatI listen to are usually either like the moth story hour where their stories,or like comedy podcasts, or occasionally political. But like, if I'm going toif I'M gonna get Political News, I'm going to do it from newspapers. Are Yeah, I'm agreeing with you. I'm doing in a really strange way. That's our long podcast is is versus watching like a fifteen second loop, which is fun, something which and also it's fun when you're like,I have five minutes to kill before class, because you can just scroll the fouryou page for like twenty five tick talks and then going to past.You can scroll at you can consume a vest. You don't have to.Yeah, but you guys are both cam majors. Yeah, so what doyou think about? I mean, how much time do you think you spenda day watching Netflix? I don't often. I usually watch like two episodes ofa show a day, like episodes. Yeah, like our long so I'vebeen watching Sabrina lately. Great new season, but Um, I spentlike five hours on tick tock straight. Really. Yes, that's interesting.Five hours. I think the draw of podcast to me is that you cando them and either like there's something I really like that. I will,like I listen to him a lot on airplanes when I'm flying. Okay,but like, I think the draw for me is that you can listen tothem and enjoy them and come away with no information, but also just likeenjoy listening to them but also be doing other things, which you can't dowatching tick tocks really, that you can do with like Netflix. That's whereI was going with that, is that I think there's a similar kind oflike entertainment value there enough that you could ignore it but still enjoy it.Right. You can like put it on his background, but you don't haveto focus. We visual as fuck. So you probably like it. Ilike all this new shit, but you know what I do? I watchyoutube videos that I want to them as podcast sometimes, yeah, like Isae play youtube videos and just listen. Body like a watch like knowing thatthere's a visual to watch, but you don't need to always watch it becauseit's someone was talking about something. You know. What kind of Youtube doyou want? You're just I know you're here. Wait the hell? Yeah, so I watch a lot of shit on video games. There's hey,Hey, speaking of I'd like to pause this conversation real quick, so Davidcould confess something on air. What are you confessing? Are you already knows? You know, in ten ten years I've played four hundred days of worldof work, as it put. David has spent over a year of hislife playing world warcraft. I'm still using you're younger than everyone else. Courage, David. So moving on, I watched a lot of like video Igot to learn about all the latest like Shit, because I used to playlike on a professional setting and I have to keep up. Yeah, andlike, but I watch a lot of like people playing or explaining shit andI just listen to the background. I mean that makes sense because, likeI watch, I watch a lot of...

...soccer videos of like highlights and gamereels and things, but you have to watch those. You know what Imean? I guess it's instructions or whatever, the video games or like what elsewas that? Example? Like city watched video are you watch? Youdo watch video game you tubers. I do watch video game youtubers, butI don't play video games. Yeah, that's why I think it's funny.But that's the thing. That's probably why it's, once again, very visualfor me. I like watching right. That's true. I don't I don'tknow what they're saying if I would just listen to them. What I usuallywatch on Youtube is actually the bone appetite test kitchen and I watch Bradley onlycook all the time, and that's my favorite thing in the entire world.But it would you. Would you listen to that without not at all.It's so funny because it's visual and they use like weird stuff, like stuffI've never made. Maybe that's just like a person by person learned. You'rea visual person. I'm a very visual person. Yeah, for sure.Theis probably audio is fuck, that's what that's why we're this. Was thiswhole podcast, was this whole operation. Was your idea? You go onthe airplane and you past I do. That's for something, something stimulating.It's not stimulating enough. I just like, what do you mean? But yes, unless ours we feel an explosions, throw explosions to explosions. Trying toappeal to the kids here. It's Fund and exciting to talk about TickTock. You know, I can't wait at an explosion into when I justsaid that. There you good for us. Thank you. There's yourself. Okay, and then to completely want any of the topic, but also talkabout tick Tock, because we're talking about China to Crowna virus. Oh yeah, like there's some stuff on tick tock where they'll post tick tocks talking aboutthe virus and they're like racist. ITA's like Chinese people. Have you heardthat? Apparently people are closing borders of China now too. Yeah, havethe US strongly saying go for there. They're banning there. I'm banning placesto play. Not going to ask anyone, but I've heard people say they don'twant to go to class because there are Chinese people in the class,which is very press and forget here. That's crazy. Correct kinds, ifyou're listening, just go to class, man. Why did you do that? It's true, I know it is, but that's the thing. God Damnit. Did He talk about racism? This is he did you know what'ssaying? I think you're making I don't. I can't speak for David. I think I'm a little looser or because you're on the podcast, Iwouldn't someone else. Okay, y'all, I've been very good friends with Davidand nick since freshman year, so I hope we're giving you some interesting content, because I started it, we weren't sitting and giggling for about like Ididn't, I genuinely didn't think we would be able to record this seconds.What. I love these boys, but why were they think? This trueabout the racism and coronavirus. But what isn't the Chinese government shutting that Shitdown. Shakes it is, Oh, oh, the YEA virus stuff.That thing is that there's also, it's like not necessarily Chinese people posting aboutit. It's people from other countries using the coronavirus to be like right,talking about Chinese people or Asian people. And where? Isn't it the case, though, like if if one of US got it? There? Readsomewhere and I heard someone say this, like if you're healthy and like relativelyyoung, we know whatever, like if you're in a healthy place, likecan't you? You're just like a flu. It's kind of like a strain ofthe flu. The issue with it is that it's spread super easily.It has like a fourteen day like dormant period. So what can happen?The reason it's kind of like scary for people is that I could have itand not show signs of having the coronavirus or fourteen. They're all like afoot way of each other and exactly where. fucking I want to get out ofthis room. I want out. Okay, US have been anywhere nearChina, but the scary thing about it now is that their signs outside ofChina it self, which is quarantining. But the US did not acknowledge itas right an issue until about like a day after. Someone said miles frommy home and Calie got it. Someone of my sister sister, goes tonortheastern I don't remember if it was confirmed coronavirus, but someone at her schoolunder in person got quarantined and they had to report like all the places they'vebeen. They reported the one of the terminals of the Airport Boston, Logan, and everyone's like that ste international a report. Who is it? Racism? But I read somewhere too that a lot of the deaths from the virusis coming from what is it called? The Chinese government? If the city? No, no, what is it called? When you not, whenyour immune system before you even get this this virus? Isn't there something where, if your immune systems already compromise?...

What is that word? Like autoimmunedeficiency, yes, whatever, that people unable to fight that right. Takepeople who might have like an illness or have like medicine that they take andit like lowers their mutiscus. I don't know if this is right than that, but I read or somewhere that fact. Maybe you've seen maybe this is alsobasis and stereotypical spock, but I read that a lot. The reasonwhy it's becoming such a problem in China maybe just because they have more people, so it's more whatever, but a lot of the people who are dyinghave that thing, what is it called a good which I don't think ismaybe not a unique to people in change China, but just because there's morepeople and that's where it started, because of the density. I mean,we're also freaking out of the US here about we freaked out about everything.But do you remember also, like this whole like racism and like a virusspreading also happened. Remember who was the soccer player talking about Ebola when shewas pregnant? Oh God, in the Oh, yes, wow, what'sknow, what's her name? It was a goalie, wasn't Kreeger? Yes, you'd got benched, though. I don't know, but everyone else thatI'm talking about, she basically was saying, she's like, I'm gonna wear aface mask, I'm not going to talk to them because I'm going toget you bola, and everyone was like, Huh, they're Harris Franch and Campbell. I know you're talking about. I can't remember who like you rememberwho was, but like the same thing that happened. That's exactly racist tosay that. Did that happen during Zeka? Maybe it was set, it wasn'tevil. Yeah, dude, I don't remember any like super pronounced racismduring the zeco thing. What ended up happening is that in the stadium,while she was playing, the whole crowd start channing it back right, Ido remember that. Yeah, why do we eat the US? Ever getanything? You need to the US? I think. I think you needto the US. Yeah, like it's a matter of all everything we have. We take this tides obe city. Besides, so I feel like it'seasier for some like kinds of viruses to spread and things. MM, we'relike the US is much more spread out, unless you're in the have you alreadyyou ever played like plague or you don't want to start in the US. Everyone spread out and we can and everyone's very separated, so it's harderfor things to spread wide and plus there's better infrastrure. There was a Isaw that recently, that was like countries that are best prepared for virus outbreaks, and it was like the US was top of the list. That's becausewe're all trim of foes. Yeah, we're all so far away from eachother at all time, but we also have like the medical infrastructure that othercountry. Fuck January. I saw him. Did you see twitter's account? RockJanuary tweet to the twitter account. tweeted it's still January dot dot,implying that like this month has been fucked. Like, what's the year going tobring us? It's February. Yeah, I mean you've got not finally February, but it's finally denrywhere in Australia. Happy February, we bright, youhave get, you've got a lot, but very mind. We've been.We've been one day into February, two days in the February and we'vealready had Bragg's. It finally happened. This is this is the presit episode, for the record. Yeah, Shit, I saw a video of them takingdown the flag and like the EU Council and I was like this issurreal. I was talking about in the car, early Leier. It's thesame Su real feeling of like when trump got elected. For me, Scotlandis gonna, is already pushing for another independence referendum already fast. They movevery fast. They're mad people. Well, they won in the last elections.The the Nash Cottage, the SMP or whatever, Scottish nationals party onelike an unpressed in amount of scenes, like they've got to. When youtoured Scotland, did you pick up a vibe of like word, Oh,yeah, what the Scottish Parliament? Yeah, are too in. They hate thebreak, the cast. Would you tour the fucking yeah, Edinburgh Castle? You get that vibe? The tour guys like yeah, man, likenow they're game, are going to they're gonna do everything they can to becomeindependent again and Johnson is not gonna need what happened. That's going to befun. I don't know much about breaks. You educate me? Not Really.I got you ready. I got you. I got could tell youthis. The phrase is very interesting, but I'm curious. Is a phraseof what. I don't know shit about it other than it isn't ready.I have these really close family friends and the husband when as a couple andthe husband used to work with my dad when they were like early young s, and they live in London. So what I went abroad to my internship, I ran into them, I met them and they were talking about theywanted to know, like that was right after a trump got elected. Sothey wanted to know what was it like? Yes, is it polarized? Youknow? And they told me a story where somebody asked them, oh, house braves it, and they or this is way like years before whenit was a hot topic of Bras it, we want to do brains it,like's just the idea, just the...

...idea of it, and so theywere like telling them and I guess it's a very polarized, heated like yeah, yeah, definitely. So they responded with house trump and half the roomwas pro hathward was not, and they and just went fucking off. Butthat's the level in their might. Like people were fucking like, what ishappening in the world's causing these kinds of decisions to be made? I'm asociology made sure, yeah, that's larger. is in people who feel forgotten,quote unquote, Wan't there. Yeah, I means I think it's the same. It's the same contingent of people in the UK that it is inthe US. Right, it's like the run that wanted. It's make theUK great again. It's the same exact yeah, kind of xenophobia, nationalisthere. I don't know. I mean my focus is more American politics.It's I think it's interesting to compare them, but I will say that I don'tthink anyone can make the argument that this is a good idea this point. I mean I remember when I was in Scotland for that five month periodor whatever, like it was supposed to happen like three times while I wasthere. Yeah, and they kept pushing it back because they couldn't get adeal, but like on trade agreements or things. But I remember I rememberrealizing like Shit, like if brakes, it happens while in Scotland, I'mnot gonna be able to fly to other her you companies, because all they'retheir negotiations with like airlines. We're gonna be fucked up, like it's liketheir economies going a tank. Like I don't know, built into the system. Yeah, and it's a completely out Keyabul. It's crazy. It's liketalking about like the riots in France. Yeah, absolutely, which are awesome, but I mean I also I also don't think the Gele Jean, theyellow us, Oh God, into this one. When I when I wasin Paris with my mom, we went, we decided to go to the EiffelTower and we checked out the Eiffel Tower and then we were walking awayand we tried to go to the shook it there, and I don't wetry to go to a train stop to go back to our apartment, okay, and like French national army officers in full right here, we're like runningpast us, and my mom and I were like you no hope that wegot an uber and booked it out of out of that area. It wasby the arch try of it was really bad. But that's what I wasgoing to say, right, is that like the nationalism in the US,in the UK, is happening in Germany, it's happening in France, it's happeningin Brazil, like it's a yeah, that's why I hope Elon must finallyfinishes a SPACEX project. I did a whole presentation on SPACEX and myintrocom course, only because I support it, because NASA doesn't actually exist exist anymore. The way that Nashal ex Nasha naturally exists is having a budget andfunding private projects. Right, yeah, but you don't lessened the fun day. Yeah, have you heard Elon musk new DM song grimes is influencing him. Have you listen to it? Have not listened to don't you don't?We talked about on the podcast that I played a little bit of it playedon the yeah, well, no, I want to know now you canlisten to it on that day plug. Yeah, yeah, this ISS he'swatching this. Is that what you do? Shout out to at Elon. You'recrazy at the Musque, the musk ox. All right, on thatbomb show, on that bombshell. Yeah, WE'RE gonna end this episode. Thankyou for coming on, cit thank you for having me as much listento rocking that I thought it was actually given our chill. All Right,thanks for listening. Tune it again next Sunday. By a Nick David Show.

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