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With Nick & David

Episode 5 · 1 year ago

S2E5: Lights

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Hit play and listen to us ponder car rental services, a financially struggling Manchester United, teaching strategies, managing mental health through exercise, and how to throw a modern children's birthday party with returning guest Henry Potts-Rubin!

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I dont know your thoughts on this, butin my experience and I'm a car person, so I follow a lot of like theoutrageous car stuff. Maybe I'm my view is off, but the people who tend tolease cars a lot are people who are maybe retired or super wealthy, andthey just want the newer car right ever four year, so yeah Shur Idon'tant, sothey don't want to deal with like maineance or anything. Theyust won'thave the newest play Thi an greatest thing and at the end of the day you don't own anything so you're.Putting all this money out, but interust there's no return. I Wen youuse money by a car driving UF blot. We all know that saying, but you reallylose. You have nothing that you own, when you lease a sure just like musicservices or whatever, and I know that there's like we have teCarsher thing at our college. It's like had a fordable way to run a car by thehour, there's a yerd of Turro yeah and, like Maven and other yeah. I am wondering what your thoughts areif the car manufacturers themselves, not like third party companies right,created some kind of third way to purchase a car or access to a car, soyou can either buy a car or least a car, or some subscription like rent a car likemonthly or like there's something because I feel like for, like I don't know like I, my first caris going to be a used car yeah, I'm in a O, Golisa car, because I don't like that. Thats just throwing right tome like I'd, rather put the extra money at cost to own the car outright sureten to just leas a car right, whatear, your Sta! Are you similar Yeahon, I'mon board with that than ertect world like it's time to buy a car forwhatever reason right, yeah, that's! Definitely where I'm going to end up toyeah and with APPS, and how like there's not for everything now like, I feel like they. These services, likewhere people can lend out their cars, I feel like it, hasn't hit h the nail on the head yet sure, becauseit's not super accessible, you still have to be over twenty five right,there's a lot nd it coan be expensive and it's not really ment for a month or tover, two months or notnthing. I think that's that's the big thing for me because, like yeah, if Iwant to rent a car to go to the store I'll, just hop on Maven, Ortorro orsomething- and I can pick out a car and use that car, but if I have like, if Idon't want to buy a car outright or I can't afford to buy carot outright, butI have to go to work every day, right, you're not going to run a car everymorning to do that, as that would just be really expensivebut yeah if therere. If it was like, you paid this much a month like aheating bilt or something yeah like a glorifiiend like I meanlike renting a car but kind of a subscription tears thingbecause everything's at you know- and I don't want to have another subscriptionin my lifd but like I just feel like the Genz- maybe millennial way of howthe old and the rich lease the new Ferari every year, yeah wet. If therewas a way that we could, I feel, like the manufacturers, couldspin around some way to make money off of that right, because, just likerenting a car like if you crash the car like it's their happiest day ever sow,they get the money out of the insurance SAR. I can get the new car right, so Ifeel like there's a way to do that, and I'm just curious about like if youthink that in the future, like we're going to shift to a if how we buy cars is going to changedramatically, because I feel, like everything else in our world has right.Maybe, except with I mean even closed because Amazon sureI mean I' Bli some at I got shoes and stuff fom meaazon I just like the carwerket has not been affected, that much...

...yet you're right other than cars notbeing sold as much because yeah, I don't know I logistically. I don't knowhow any of that would work, but I think it definitely could like I like, ifTessla offered a service where you pay like, I don't even know what a fairprice would be like a monthly rate where you brasically have access totestlan vehicles. Sure would you do that Ab prol I mean, depending on theprice but yeah Iwar somy, electric Lik Yep. You know like a like a servicewhere you can drive your car to your house or apartment and II back to theplace every single yeah. You know you know this is slightly tangential, but Ithink this woul solve a lot of problems for people who can't afford I'm thinking about. There was thistweet recently that I saw, which you know as always a good start to aconversation, but it was basically explaining that it was by someone who had just recentlytake me a lift, rigd or overridt. Basically, the driver was explaining tothat person that there's this whole, likeunofficial, lift subscription like lease service thing, that's happeningso espencially. There are people around the country and this one was inVirginia, but who will buy just like a shit loadof cars and then, if you need to, if you need a car or you need to drive,you need to make money or whatever you lease the cars from that man. Yeah I'veheard that to drive them, but then the money from your liftres goes to theowner of the car. So you go all the money you make goes back to that guyand you have to basically drive enough to hite your Lese to even break, even so, it's kind of like a landlord liketented situation, but I think that a lot of people that do things like thatare people who can't afford to buy a car outright and they're looking forways to have access to t e vehicle right. I just think that I've seenvideos. I saw a video about somebody who you know hen you get those really richpeople on Youtube and they're, like I'm doing this for a dat, tit's yeing,something that is a Painni the niht ye. This guy, like said, instead of renningfrom enterprise at the airport, I'm going to rent through a Turo s service right, but it was froma guy who bought a bunch of cars, and I know that because he, when he went whenhe got off the plane, as he had to take a shuttle somewhere and then find thecar in the parking lot call the guy and he remotely activated it. Of course,like this, a guy in his house like this is not a company thingup nd, it was apayin the neck and, like I don't want, if I a just oard to be a customer of aservice like this, I would want a company right. Yo want the Actul, likealikener manufacturer, and that's why I think like. If car companies did this, that'sinterestg could have. I mean there's gotto be a way because then, even afterthe car is no longer deemed like good for the subscription program like theycan sell it right prio. You know, I don't know yes ye, like. I think thatmakes a lot of sense. Yeah get on it. So we have at. We have anentrepreneur real center. Here S Tuously, you know and hen use the otherthing I'm going to say when I went to the Cleveland herts yeah, so I have soit's pain, the neck running of car hurts, but this is yeah hurts. Let metell you why, at everybody who's under twenty five, if you are a TRIPLEAmember, they wave ofl the underage crap, you could have just rented a youhallbecause I think that's eighteen yeah but like, but then you have a YuwHall. Yeah, be scared to drive, I'm not scared ofdriving, but a! U Ha Yeah! That's Nice! One! Tri DRIING! You A to me justscreams! I'm moving! I don't know what I'm doing yeah! You know what I sawSpeing of you hall when you Sai. I saw something on Youtube. Do you know theterm about you hall and Lesbian Culture? I don'tthink so is the other hed ny. So what side of Youtube? Are Youtrecomnrecommendpparently? What is it Alledsoo? I O? No. This wasa term coined by.

I don't want to say all because maybe Idon't know but like a part at least of lesbian community, okay, pop culture,an you ham, Esbian Ora, you Ho couple or you hall, a woman or Sooteo okay.What asically? It means like that. You get so attached so easilythat the next day you wented a uhoany event an. I was like a I gouled it onlike Irvan dictionary, and it's like this like thing, because when I saw thethumb nail I this woman with a youhall like Broshire right, I didn't evenwanch to video Bu. Look at the comments. I don't know how I stumble on this, butan a cech like. Oh my God, like I love that, like you all this stuff, and Iwas like what it' like yeah, that that sounds like I've. Had that conversationwith Maddie may that definitely sounds like something she would. She wouldenjoy its so fun. Ow Is te FIR. She knows yeah. I thougt that was so likegenius and made me think I need to get more on the terms of stuff, but anyway,yeah yeah cool couple of things. There all right, all right, I'l a get up onmy soapbox for a minute. Okay, as you know, and I'm sure, a lot of thepeople listening now I am an avid soccer fan. I will watch basically whatever 's on,but I a a huge follower of the English premierly and it has been an absolutely crazy,EPL sin season. So Liverpool is insanely dominant. They have, I think,not one as single like they've. Only theye only not won a single game allseason and it was an October and they tied so they're undefeated. There are only three points separatingfourth place from seventh place, which is crazy at this point in the season,especially because fourthplace is a qualifying spot for European Cup, sobig deal, and then Manchester City has just been banned for two years fromEuropean competition because they violated financial, fair playregulations and they're also about to get dopted. I think EPL points for itas well, which is huge because they are raining champions so really big deal. I'm a Manchester United Fan we've been struggling in recent years. Basically, sincesirads Fergson retired we've blown big transfers, we lostplayers, we've cycled through managers pretty quickly, so we went from DavidMoys to Louis Van Hal to Jose Marino who I still detest with every fivemight be. I think, we're finally, in a littlemore consistent place with our current manager, which is Olgane Solshar. WHO,for those who don't know, is a mantiostunited legend already? He usedto play for the team. He was a goal, scorer Ain a championship game that wasreally important. We Wan't trauvel, while he was playing with this so he'salready kind of a figurehead, but we've definitely een o performing better aswhat we beach elsea this past week, but we're still kind of struggling, andso I want to talk a little bit about why. I think that is because you know the whole. The wholepoint of anchestor united is that it's one of the largest soccer clubs andsports teams in general in the world, and that is supposed to be too big tofail, and so I want to just a little break down on why it is failing. So I think part of that is injuriesright. I don't know what's wrong with our training system or our physios, butwe have a ridiculous number of players get injured every season which reallyhandstrangs the team, because it means we have to draw up. We have to pull uplike usually really good, but also really inexperience like nineteen yearolds from our BEUTH team. So that's a problem. I think there'salso a problem with Sir Alex Ferguson when he retired he was incredible, buthe kind of rulled the club with an iron fist. It was a really outdated style of likemanagerial coaching therare, like like, to the extent that there are storiesabout him parading around the locker room, with a broad sort in his hand, tolike scare intimidate players like he was a character.

So I think that there's probably a lotto say there and you could go into that more. But what I want to focus on andI'll try to make this asustinct as possible. Is that I, as both as a lifelone fanand is a stockholder, because I do own fine shares a manageest, united, Stimi,yeah and incredibly frustrated and pissed atthis point at Manchester United Ownership, so Mashjester united is owne by anAmerican family which is already unusual already oftove that start it's owned by the glazer brothers, sothree brothers they leveraged to buy out fifteen yearsago. So two thousand and five for about seven hundred ninety million dollars sospend a lot of money to gain like. I think. Seventy five percent interest orcontrol they also just if you're curious. Idon't know what this says about them, but they also own the Tampa Baybuccaneers. So there's that- and I think that there they've done alot of things wrong since they took over they're running the club,essentially like at this, like a for profit corporate business instead of asports team, which I think is causing a lot of problems, we've blown big moneyon players that just didn't work out or who weren't worth it. Players like KlanMata, who were supposed to Speek playup, who had the opposite effect or playerslike Marilyn Filani, who are really good at a certain thing, but not reatall around and then players that just hadn't really worked out so like PaulPub. A huge name, probably remember him from World Cup re mouth of how a coupleother people who are really great players but just haven't, seemed tokind of Mesh with the club. With that, I think the glazers haven'nsupported managers requests. So you know N, when Van Hall says or has saidin the past. We need to spend money on big defenders that the managers refusedto kind of dish out that money for those transfers and then, moreimportantly, they're absent, like I could not. If you askd me Goin to myhead to draw you a photo of what either any one of the three brothers lookelike, I don't think I could Bu. I hav absolutely no idea what they do day today. Theyre the Chief ExecutiveEdward Word is kind of their representatives TSA. He runs everything,but so that's a real problem, and so I just want to, I think, just to just to Hamder this point inI'm going to share a couple statistics. The first is that before the glazers took over and Manchus before, the Glazers took over in two thousand and five machus united as aclub has had not been in deat SINC, Ne Thosand, nine hundred and thirty one so it'Sall, not quite a century, butdam PLOs yeah at this point in time. Last time I'velooked. Do you want to guess how much Dheat we're in right? Now they bought the team forhow. Seven.Ninety bought the team for seven ninetylars and I have the debtid Pounde,so a litte different, but close enough, I don't know thirty million matchesternigted is at this moment time. Four hundred and ninety six million poundsin debt weare is obscene because why they'relosing because responsor, because yeah we're performed, I mean our sponsorsare strangely good, like we got this partnership with Sheddy, we have tryingto sheddy logos on our Jursey's. Now, like the sponsors are okay. I justthink that it's been really bad financial management in buying playerschoosing where to spend our money, ht, investing in different kind of clubsand Virchan things they've also been listed on the NewYork Stock Exchange. Since I forger what year that was, but I was in highschool, so she ai, Sel team, could be put on the I didn't either, but I yeah Idefinitely have shares now, but so we're like about five hundred millionpounds in debt. At this point we hase paid- and I don't know what theTimeland for this is, but probably the last. If I had to guess I probably saidthe last ten years. We have paid over seven hundred sixty five million poundsin interest on that debd for players...

...for other different things. The glazers have had to refine icemultiple times. I kind of split that up and manage it. Two Thousand and ten, Ithink, was the last time they did it, and so, at the end of the day I thisisn't you this conversation. Is this interactive, as my topics usually arelike? I'm not really asking yeah you as much, but I just think that like theygot, they need to go, and I don't know if that's just there are a fewAmericans that own premier league teams- I don't know if it's just thatAmericans shouldn't be involved in soccer at this point in time. I don'tknow if it's like the blazers themselves are really bad. I mean clearly Americ I mean Liverpoolis owned by the like Fenway Sports Group, so they're, fine, I just thaug.I 'm there's this huge glazers out movement and I think I'm finally onboard. I just think it's ridiculous. You know this has been happening withthe New York Nicks. No a well for last. Five: six seven years has a reallyfansive channinto the owner. When the owner goes to game, sell the team andthe owner actually got the fan who the start of the chat, ojected and bandfrom all NIX Games. I mean I would love to see that at United thime Ayti lasers,don't fucking go to the united ties. I like that's crazy. I think that yeahmay you chat e. like a I mean, how do you have all this money? Businesswhatever? And then you start writing the team like a business and it I justdon't- and I knew you like- I know you're not as as in the soccer as I am,but you're a sports guy. So I in you diting a lot yeah. This is a trend in American, like in NBA that everything Ma NBA is happening Formula One because I ave internationalnowlike. I don't know that this is happening in Satlicin European SouthAmerican one sock is sofcer besize match, I mean I'm sure it's happeningother places, but I don't know if it's happening to this scale. EAS A lot ofteams are also. This is kind unrelated, but are getting bought out, Bysaudilike billionaires and there's a really strong movement,also, like the I think, Machester nite fans want theg lasers out, but they'realso very against having like Saudiyouo Undertan, yeah yeahexactly well, because en I know I mean they're in debts. I don't know aboutthat. But, like I mean the Nicks, for instance, are making money Rit a lot ofmoney, but they suck yeah. So the owners, fine, but obviously the NewYork New Yorkers, are like Wat the hell right, but in man ciy case Jeez, that'sthere's also a fun. This is again slightly tangential, but there's a funstory somewhere online, probably find it about the Chicago cubs and how theywere just so bad for so long. But no one did anything about it because theirfans were s. It was such a loyal base that everyone was still coming to gamesand buying swag and puss away. No one know there was no incentive to changeyeah from a like a pure financial standpoit. So I don't know, there's awhole host of things going wrong, but I think that haveroom, Malcolm whatever the thirdbrother's name is they got to go. They need to leave immediately, so yeah wanted to talk about that Jeez all right yeah. So so you have anothertopic: that kind of blends with your first one kind of yeah. So we see sort of I'm thinking aboutanother topic. Okay, that I was going to say originally, because I think Ikind of addressed those topics but either way either yeah. So I want totalk about. I saw on instagram te been doike chunkycheese, not not inall, Lein Timbutoeeaeyeah yeah. So I am wondering if these arecades, you know howeveryone's like our kids are like breeding kids to Lon, how to gambleyeah enthe they becomyou know. So I'm...

...wondering if kids, I feel like I feel like the arcade is not as big asit was right HECD. When we were little, I think our parents were even like. Oh,it's not like how it used to be yeah because Ma for sure you know hy that weliked going. I mean I thought it was cool that you could learn tickets andget prizes right, even though, like value to you know, obviously, but now with like Bou earlier with blutboxes and stuff, I feel like that's replacing okay, the arcade space andI'm wondering like kids, like I wonder like if I was seven this year rigt. What would I do like? What would be a birthday party? I'd, be cool to go toor like something like a special occasion, kind of thing: okay, that'snot going to the movies and like going to some cool like restaurant or likeright that ar okay, because I feel like that's, I mean I think David Busterswas have like a moment to, like that's still wit, big Parytaeester fogbout.How are they doing? I one just opened up in Donton Silver Spring. There were.I live in Maryland, so they're, clearly, not that CCOWNSIZE ors. I have no ideabecause you've got kids playing games, but then you also have the like adultstheyre going like a bar, this yeah yeah ASAS utrs that I went with my brother.Like my freshman year's college and I camehome right, we were lit my parents wegre out that night, and so I werelike I was do something I was like: screrlls go: Give Investors Ci, haven,yeah, and you know that game that you stack the blocks called stackers. Yes,you like thing I me and like it's always rigged at the top, an right,even in yeah y one. They have ax box on the machine, the playstation, the weeand th all this stuff, and I was like excited so I was like I'm going to sellthis shit like Yeah M. Ah, but you know what the guy came over said: Ohcongraslations, you was- and I was like yeah I'm trying to select the prizebecause I watch tons of Youtu videos right happen. Wome people win thismachine, the guy said. Oh No, this isn't actually what you when this isshowing what you can win. instend. You get a bunch of tickets. Of course I gotlike two thousand like gits I, but the xpax was like two hundred Hozand ticesright, the biggest BS. You can go back and win that exact game every day year yeah. So I'm wondering just like whatlike what's tread like what's Trent, do youknow anything? That's Iam I in touch with the seven year old r listeners intouch NHUDREDAND, twelve. I don't know like e honestly feel, like kids, justlike, like I mean I In't know what there used todo I'll. Give you I'll give you the first thing to it's the same thing thatpop into my head, which is laser tag, an paitball okay, I feel like those are always safeor like go carting, although I feel like fewer people. Do that now then do a lot! People Paintbull, I don't know, I think Lazer tag isprobably or but safer and also for younger, like you're not going to take yourseven year old to go, shoot. YEAPABALL got I mean most people aren't butyou'll take you'll, take them to a plaser tag facility wow, but those arethe only two things that I could think of off the top of my head. But likethat's, not let roll me Monei feel like a Rols, crushing like that, the goodthings from like everything's at home. Now I mean, do you remember your ownbirthday parties like what did you because I likele I had one in Chiny,cheese, yeah, aslike, third grade stuff at home. Yep, you know, Shit likewe got like Awhat is tit called it's not a reptologist yeah, but with thatthe reptiles or Anwa Eco Yeah is had one of those to. I honestly just feellike like if I told that to even a seven year old or a six year old rightright, eight year old, like hey like...

...we're, gonna, have a guy co or bringcool stakes and stuff. I honestly think they yeah whtever and keep playing forit. Yeah that's iiatcraz thin about. I can almost confidently say that I meanmy family is very into and was very into like DIY party theme. So, like I had arenassance farafeand party is at woy point and we had. It was like raining,but my dad basically tha had the Pinyada in the backyard, but then wouldgive us he had like a. It was like a broom handle that he was using as a like, a jousting lance or whatever it'scalled, and then he would pull us across or push us across the yard. Inthe wagon hat we have to like Jos ti the PANYATA. That's awesome so, likethat kind of thing, as unique am one year we did like a there was a ourhouseas. I think our house is getting renivated during my birthday, so wepushed Thi October but did like a Halloween, haunted house theme thingand like did up our basement and pertition off walls and like it was areally good time, but I think that those were very unique kind of like, like. I think you can get creative withit and do really cool things. But I feel like oin. Go Cardi or doing thecreat thing like those bolh sound like I would love doing this yeah. Ihonestly don't know if, like yeah, I mean I'll go theres, you wantto go payballing tere's a laser time, there's a place here. We should totallygo Izar tagger. Is it really Goo Cretin thing yeah a Goo CRA place sucks, butthe lase loi haven't gon, never gone to Te Blaser Tag. So, okay, yeah? U ILIST!FUCKI LIST! That's interesting! What did you dowhen you were seven years old, yeah tell Ostell bout. SWER is different.Thi Send US photos from your seven year old birthday party, yeah literally but yeah. That was just a thought.That's crazy! I like that. I honestly think that I don't know what I'm gonna, like. I don't know if I'm falling outof touch for I just growing up and think that with kids e do is lame. Ijust think it's sad, but like right, we a es Febetday. I don't Care Jo, BringPizza, we'r Gonto playfortnight, like Vdo eether day. Like that's strange, Imean I at I worked on Tek for this person's house and this that'sliterally something that I li, a WAIKEA, yeah kiddoesn't even want you know,yeah. Also, I'm like I'm, not a huge birthday person anymore, and I can'tpinpoint that change but like now, I don't want to do anything for mybirthday, so I'm having I'm struggling, I think just a generally yeah. I know I feel that I did too, like Igot lucky this last year, my my birthday was on the same days threedifferent international soccer final, so I got to watch the women's world cut.Finally, a Harty, I know literally, I was I just and it was by twenty firsttwo, so I was at literally just spent the entire day at bars, watching soccer,which is like ideal right but like I wouldn't have planned anything but juse dafers like do what you want to do: Yeah tlike now that yeah hbut yeah all right. Well, I almost don't want togo to my next topic, because it's going to be it's a very different vibe. This is, assaid, but it's not sad a little bit man, it's about mental health. Okay, I would like to talk about somethingthat I've been thinking about a lot lately and Ha. I've had conversationswith the fee different people about this, and that is the relationshipbetween depression or mental health and exercise you're an intate person. You Work Out,K, yeah you're, definitely more in shape thot a lot of us. Okay, I ideaavTribiatin to my metabolism. Okay, I was Jus, but but do you think, do you feellike working oun hopes you kind of manage your mood? Yeah Yeah Ye yea, ahundred per cent? Okay. I know that because when I was home over likewinterbreak or even summer, sometimes I'd be really like lonely and Bord orwhatever I go for Arun ID be Fine Right R. I'm stressed here I go running yeahsure and it's just better yeah. So I I hundred percent feel that, and I thinkworking ot most of the time does help me manage my mood. I'm gonna, I'm just going to say I work with.

I work on myself. A Lot concerni mentalmental health and mental illness, but also just this, is like what I'm goingto say now is based on my owd experience and things. I read thisstudy those scene. I think that the yes exercise iswonderful and it's useful and it releases and Dorphins, and it gives youa reset on your vental health and is could be you physically, like all ofthat good stuff, not just for people struggling with mental health, but withanyone yeah, I think, there's a problem that startswhen people talk about exercise like it's a cural or an answer. It's amental health, yeah kind of the same vein as like you don't need a vaccinefor that they're trying these all natural remedies. It's like like thatsame kind of like you, don't need medication for this like just work out because and like clearly exercise isnot going to cure depression on it's own. If it did, we would have figuredthat out a long time ago, and I would venture to say that ifyou're, anxious and you're feeling really anxious and you go for a run andthen you come back and you're totally reset and you magically feel betteryou're, not suffering from anxiety, disorder. ND necessarily you just havethe symptoms and I don't think you can comflete. So,like everyone feels anxious at some point, I don't think you can conflatethat with a chronic diagnosable disease. I think that's what's dangerous. So,like I mean most of the time. Yes, when Iwork out, I feel much better, but sometimes I don't sometimes it justit's just whatever like I leave feeling the exactsame way. I felt when I started yeah, but I think more importantly than thatis that sometimes working out or exercising just isn't within reachbecause, like a huge symptom of depression and mental illness, islethargy or inability to do things like plain your room or shower open a curkinor like do very basic things like that, and I think asking people alreadystruggling to kind of transcend those symptoms and do something that's justso beyond reach is, is really patronizing, and so I always get alittle testy. I mean I get ver I get defensive very easily, but when I talkabout how I'm not doing well mentally- and people's first instinct is to askme if I'm working out or like living a healthy life, I think that is somethingthat I immediately kind of pushed back on and then Youkno also like working likethe gym, can also trigger in itself like anxiety or guilt or other symptoms.I think I just think an general exercise isn't a good mental healthmanagement strategy unless you already have a good relationship with it beforethat right Lik. I think if you, if Youve,never worked out- and you just start working out, because someone tells youto because you're struggling with your mental health you're going to end uprelying on it or it's going to put you in a toxic cycle or you're going tofeel killed when you don't work like, I think that there's a whole host ofproise that come with that. So that's a pretty quick thing, but Ijust wanted to say like yes, of course, everyone should work out. If they can,everyone benefits from exercise, it doesn't make a a cure for anything andI think we need Tho stop framing it like it is yeah yeah, thits interesting. I think yeah, because I have because I dealwith some shit to. I think that yeah a I already had a goodrelationship with it was working out before. But for me and maybe a lot ofpeople. If I run, I subsequently eat healthy and sleepwhile right, which doesn't hurt anything, but I think of it like that,like I, I feel better about myself physicallymentually, because I'm eating healthy right sleeping but- and that makes youreally good, but Fuk yeah. I N' know its like a catalyst yeah like if it'sdirect, and that makes you feel great and whatever but there'r, sometimesighi run or something that doesn't right. I think it's really powerful tohelp people kind of get off their feet and start moving yeah, but I don'tthink it's like, like you can't you can't say. Oh I worked out for an hourtoday. Don't have to go to therapy like that's, not that's, not a good move.Yeah. Are you seeing that people saying that,like news media like Di, how did you come? I've been seeing on social mediaa little, and I also just you know...

...personally, like my family- is verysupportive. I love my family, but a lot of the times. Their response to likeI'm having a reghmoment right now is like come to the gym with me and like yes, that's good that it helps,but it doesn't always help, and then I also had a conversation with one of my friends, one of our friendsabout it recently and started thinking about it. A little more. This oesingyeah cool e, all right, we're going to takeour first and only break ot. The show yeahand, then yeah, then we'll pring,our guest in hot tip or there's a Aguiy Omoso, we'll take a break in them. We'll comeback and we're back. We are here with thecardinality king himself, the infamous guest, that we always talkd about yoursecond ges IEE fourt ges, thiror fout. It was early. It was like Trisa EAN,Henry Wer, the first yeah thathat's before I really like, knew youand likeyou were, like we weren't, even based Byen. If you had,we weren't even face idn't even have a facebook. A ALISSA was definitely one of theearlier ones to yeah, but yeah. This nothing's changed we'redoing the same thing. We've been doing for a year, Fisei feell, O on what wetalked about. I got off of my soapbox and basically told everyone that theglazers needs to sell, machest united, because they're running the companyclub into the ground, and then I talked about the relationship between mental health and exercise, and then we have two questions for youcur same David, so the first one yeah Hik, first one and he curentnalityrelated because Ioknow they're, not partonit, was a topic. We did THUIF.There was a monthly car rental service so like instead of buying a Lisat, youcould rent it month by month, but not like toxic like hurts enterprise rentalcar like like Chrislers rents like they have asubscription service like spotify premium, is like car premum for Gensand millennial people that can't afford to black car out right, but also no onejust leases a car, throw all that money away. IMEAN it seemas reasonable at firsttake right. You Bark Av the Ron tree because Idon't like to drive anyway so whut. I use it. No, but Li Ri don't want Tha, you think you'r notGonto get Aart. Now I realize that I'm gonna have to have a car, and I'm verydisaligned by this yeathat make sense. So he's not the target debographic foryour market David Ne, he wouldnt, Bi, yeah and like because I'm Goingno needa car. I'm Goinno need O, usually Soi'm, just going to get a cars posed to renton onhy. You want to own it outright, yeah all right. Okay, we more interestingquestion: What did you do for your Seventh Birthday Party? What was you childhood like yeah? Didyou go a chucky cheese or O go carting or go to the farm? T thehell sh, that's a thing actually really yeahkids Gota Ar Leet a go to partand. I don't know what I do for birthdayparties when I was a kid like. I guess my mom would make a bunch ofdifferent food and we would to have my family over and Redat food that woul. That would appeal to aResodon, yeah. So Davis Point was that, like chucky cheese or like we found outthat we, both at some point in our lives, had like peopleit reptiles, cometo the house and show off their snakes and everything. What's it called arettilologist Oro? What is it called you TATRAC Onall dracologist,...

...that's wrong for specifically reptiles,Tininaficans, ARA stakes and Lik. Well, heroologist Wen her. I AENSLI mygrandfathersounds, like herthat's cool yeah ut seriously, hat juste still hasa couple: syces Yo have connect a the guy that I broughtto Gos Hartn breingin the nake yeah. Oh, you were the cool TAT's awesome, so okay, but that was appealing Surlike we're saying I Tais Davids question. Likits do do that they justwant to say no bom. I just won pizza myfriends e play for I went to a sevenyear old today and Sai. Look for your birthday, we're going to bring in a Tiit. Snakes were goon to chiny cheese. The kid says no to Checke jeans, yeahomakes. I guess I see like there's more, that's less surprising that they wouldsay no such a thing, because now they have ipads that I'mtelling you that I o go up to a seven year old and say: Do you want to go toDavid, muster shuking cheese, laser Ta, I don't care and hey'll be like no. I mean now about it. You know I'mkind of changing minds on both Meno questions to Hevry. Now that he's herepobe they would want to do it. We should serve me some. We should surveyseven year olds to my lass is almost over too bad. Oh, my God! That's atopic! Okay! Do anythingopic yeah all right, so those are the fourthings we talked about. I say what would you like to talk about yeah, okay,wow, Isso e related to tat? I guess? Okay, so I'm teing a couple courses, thesemester, I'm not the only one in the room, because yeah t onsing and I've been thinking about can I hasta made. You want to have kids, because I've decided that I'm never going tohave childrer at them really after teaing thire's. Just too much man Jesusinteresting yeah, that's o related. I just I don't think it's affected me inthat. In that sense O, I don't think I can handle it interesting not nowanyway, although ecaus that makes sense as a twenty one year old senior incollege, okay anyway, but anyway and like I'm,going into grass com next year, I'm going to be teaching glasses and I'vebeen thinking about. What's my Pedigagi, what's my teaching philosophy? What Ihow I want this to work- and I was talking to well I'll back up, okay, there's a class in the flastedepartment here I want called it out, but it is we in the math department sort of liketo joke that this class is covered in the first two weeks of a certain mathcourse. Okay, what's the Cli thin, you have to say the Ame of the class okay,so, okay, so plus he forceis logicand philosophy, also wors yeahand and ourtransition to advancemants course. We we do sombup with logic for like twoweeks and it's I beeno an exaggeration that we cover all of the class in thesetwo weeks. Right. It's pretty Harand gloses, it's not or nat much ofexaggeration, and what like strikes me as odd is that it takes a semester to teach thismaterial and people still don't get it right. So I was talking to a friend of minewho also wants to teach in the future, want to be a professor, so os he and heasked me okay. So to what level do you teach a class? Do you average out the skill levels of thestudents? Do you teach about halfway? Do you? You know wh re where's, thecompromise. Do we compromise it to those students that are really lagking?Do we slow the class down andslet everybody else down to keep them in theloop, or do we eventually lead people behind which, as a teacher, I d likethe idealy people behind? As a teacher, I don't like the idea soling down thematerial but hat assutent like, but as a student who feels like they'regrasping material. You don't want the pace of the class to be set by yeahyeah. I would feel terrible for those...

...you know top twenty five percentstudents that are born out of their minds. Imean that's how that's how America ones, though, right like as imaginig like theSOMMIS person you could think of and then lower your expectations. I feellike that's the like amount of thought we put into like caution: Sids a hiresit and havea whole year version of the course wher.Do you think people stosengetit there's no time to take it for a year andtratlind get I mean so like honorsing. It like yeah, like like changingtheirquirements for Sigran students who actually wanted to be there and put Iin the work to the as he gets, because they don't want to put in the work ordo you think, there's Io Mixi, so this. So this is the question: Do I if they, if they don't want to put inthe work- and I go at say, seventy five percent? If I teach to the seventy fivtpercent tile students, sure then the people below that mark do they just drop off the face of theearth because they can't keep up or because I'm teaching harder than I wasbefore. Did they say? Oh, I need to put in the work right. Is it a crat shootlike what do I? You know wetl think it's interesting Ti because Y I'm surethis happens in philosophy that you have some people over there, becausethey're interested in that course bat. Then some people there, because it fita time splot orr filling a major requirement. It's like everyone's therefor a different reason. So I don't know what point I'm frying tomake with this. But it's interesting to consider. I also think it'd be interesting if you're, an EDmajor anyone listening, yeah WLI'd, becurious to know, yeah be curious to know what you've been taught or whatyou think, because I'm just I just hadn't realize asion the other day that,like professors, don't always know how to teach you. You know that as a student butlike I just had the realization that, like there's no education, majorrequirement for becoming a professor I's just masters PhD right, but thereis for a teacher yeah right. I know, and people are pissed about that. I cantell you insiht you're curious. I know yeah graduates and people hat tograduate who are madder than Hell because you can walk in as a professor.You get tenure to make bank right, but not in the second. I don't thinkanyone's making bank as a professor, but I don't know Harard or whatever,like not making bag from taching theyredoing other things. That's true. What would you do would yo? Would you teachto the te like middle student in the class, orwould you teach so that the Lon man, I don't know? As being I identify asthe Middle Wower tear student? It's definitely fast, definitely not bestTano. How fast I can get the information you know, yeah, like I din,Cooa, peas or honer Shit like that. That's not shit but yeah. You know, butso I kind of have a spot for those kids. But also I'm sosick of, like man oo, makes me crazy mad. Is that we're all doing is howmany classes are you guys taking besides teaing like you're takingtheget classes, I'm ontn two classes and Doa? U Yeah Fuck Yante Ame, but Ialsoam takingalass o find Juor Yearan. Do you remember like no this year? Okay,you're doing all this, but you're also doing is and we're doing better jobthan freshman sophomores yeah, who have less shit to do. Bith they're, justlike yeah like the work ethic, is just gone down, but I think also thedifference between you and others. Like you'R, I mean correct Lyif, I'm wrong.You spend a lot of time working on the material and like makingsure you understand and asking professors for help and like blockingtime out to do that. But there are people like I in canting two classes,there are certain people in each class that will remain namelist, but commonlate don't participate in class. If there get asked questions, I answerhoars, I don't know like clearly didn't do the reading like there are peoplethat don't get it because they don't want tomaybe- or there are other things going on that are preventing them from, and Idon't know that it makes sense to Kapter your entire class to those tothat temographic yeah, I wouldn't own that yeah yeah,...

...so I don't know I would probably teach to the middle, maybe a little higher than the middle,and just do because better to be harsh than thes been boring. How do you gaugethe Middle? Well, I think that's that was the otherthought I just had is that you have to. I mean you have to really check inmaybe not individually, maybe just collectively, but with everyone to seehow they're feeling about, because you can just I mean, stop in theclass oneday and say like how's, everyone doing if they're like we don't get any ofthis, then you know oh right, like slow down right and I don't think I've had a lotof professors that check in like that to see how, like, I think, once aprofessor picks a a tempo, they just stick with it, butit be it kind of interesting if, like Dr Attire, Professor Bostor Cocker BallStar like stopped in the middle of class and was like, does everyone comprehend tha yeah? Likedo? I need to go slower? I guess there's also like you have to teachcertain things before sure certain times. So I guess in like the MassDepartment right. We have, you know daily or neardaylhey homework thathelps as a check and helps te s Riat when or people dropping off won. We notunderstandnything that that helps the check. But when I was studying abroadand boodapassion I had I had a professor who would, after he would putoup something outrageous, some sort of outrageous proof. It was way insane. Hewould. He would do this thing where he would say: Okay now who understood,raising and right. Okay, who didn't Kitall, Grazou hand, okay, who abouthalf yeah like that engageent after every single yeah? That's good! Will you can we pauise for a second o?You can celldat about the lights on the chaibridge yeah. Let me remember it itson the Chaimbridge yeah. So this s the same professor, actually yeah. That'swhy I thought ofit yeah, so sothis professor. I took number thinerith him. He Ai. He said interesting guy, to say the least, verywild, very eccentric, really interested in education in the psychology oflearning very, very neat net guy, but he he has. This story is the sort of meathin that he said that he, youroriginal motivation is. You can use it to impress women, but you know what Ithink you can press everybodyhat. You O Youea, less, there's a story this andyou can use the story to impress women are you can use this tri? Okay, okay asgoand the jyst of it is right. So what you do is you you go to theperson you on impress. You say: Well, okay, there's a there's, a big bridgein Mo es, probably sorry important, Tharyoug up to the person. Yoon press-and you say: Do you know thow many lights, aound, H, Chambridge and ofcourse they didn't. They have no idea, they say I have no idea, you say: Ohcome, I have a guess and then say: Okay, whatever and they'll say a number andno matter what they say. You say: No, no N, no N, O your way off it's andthen just say another rand. Another! It's like you know you're! So smart.You Know Ho me like Igh yeah, and so he was telling this to his kincel one, nay as children, and they say, okay, thatthat's that's very funny, that's great, but how many O, how many lights areactually on the Ang? And he says well in whe we? Why don't?We go checkand, so they drive up and down Chambridge until they counted allthe lights and they figure it out and so gonome like on the Chambridge they drove they drove up and down amillion times how many times they drive ntel like acounl, ehow, Manyli, O youthinkchmb wait. How many did did the person Gess to what person? Yes? Is this avil? Ohjust how many lights do youosixty? Nine?...

No, no, no! No playin more five hundredifty! I really hope everyone listeningunderstands. ONSWAIT OKAYIT's, one of my favorite jokes aallthe time is thisactually something that you can go to people and impress them, or is that Tim,it's part of the joke, so I explain it that is by Heo, so how you didn't actually drive this GidsCaus Shn actually count them, and so, when I ask you, do you know how manythere are er? No, I don't know how many now have a Gat, no you're doing your Ro. What the tthe ibeginning or I say to someone I I do thinkoccnerayou say yousay: Fuck, you ISIEYEAH, there's! No, there's no good with that! Now! Yeahters no, but see so are you saying, but can I go intolike a bar and try this? What I mean causit's a joke? This is not an actualthing. You do to aress Peopo e line, just the Sud Telki. Can we just pausefor a moment for those who know David and our friends, so to imagine David,leaving this room and trying to repicate this one morgatg bell anyway, all right, yeah, don't thinktoo much about it. At least. Don't is it joke because because I have to guessanyway Youen that you told me that it's just impossible to? Yes, that's a yes!I knew that. So do you tell then, when you trying to joke everything, you justtold me what? Yes, then, how could you bithing? So I was about to answer D. belikedon. Yout told me that it's impossible. What am I answer like that, then tit's still isdon end up in thisan conversaationokay, Google, I a no. It's is jokeit's. Actually, thisprofessor sal need to like Eei, okay, all right yeah yeah, and he would he so what he woulddo is he would, after this Chamber of O joke? I man named the Chambebridgetrick where, when we were doing math problems, we had to do like if anybody into math is listening inreductions, modul of some crime- and you know what happens then is youhave to figure out? You know. Basically what number do you get out of thissituation and it was really hard and you would do it very qood ly say: Oh,it's seven quickly right and how do you do it? Wis Chame, Rige Drick, you justspeak. T EA, you ow what you're talking about? Let's Sayit wa Col Yo sameconfdence, right, Nobo, Kno. I love that all right yeah is this before I say something else isthis: Do you have another thing to talk about or no that S Itatasi? So I don'tknow back to t the pedegogical a questionsat hand. I genuinely don't know what the answer I don't either. When I waswalking to my friend right, I said I would teach at the seventy five percento Lik. I would. I would go there because I don't want to slow the people who I seeis having the most potential Idon dotknow. I don't care for that. Raseright yeah, I on'most low them down, and it is my hope that those people who weren't putting in theright amount of effort, Wut then say oh CRAFP, I gointo put in right, Aout, F,efor sure I mean I think they're also mitigating, like. If you have a ta oryou know the students better, like I think, they're mily gattingcircumstances. There is no how much you can do like if I'm in the CounDepartment here classes are twenty four students and it's a senior level like asenior year class and I've known them...

...all for three years like I think youcan kind of gauge how people are doing. That's true and like one on one, two, alittle bit more effectively that if you're like out of six Hundred PersonLecture Hall at University, O Thatdenbur or North Easter yeah, that's that's fact,and it very much depends on hi class as well. Like you know, three hundredlevel classes here, yeah, you should be teaching in seventy five pluts ro rightwir. I should be the people that want to be here that are doing the work. But if in I e right, but if it's anintro class like in or POGEC or something go down a bit sure right yeah, I don't know where the cut offs Arre. Idon't know where Tho like I just I just imagine. Every students, David Yeah Percen, to Wain I nobody knows Yeahosyou knowtavid isthis- is not related to his intelligence or work. Ethic David isthe biggest kissas. I've ever met in my entire letters, I'm so kiss as that. Don't there's no good way to end that Idon't know yeah, I just in IV, complented professors, clothing inclass like Thereis, something like what was it in, not theory, amediatedMINUM age gendersexuality. My professor was like what's fashionable with clothing, ighthe's wearing a green sweater and I was like len sweated literaly a way he waslike. Okay, he's like o the classes like, Oh my God, yth highest grade n class, be CompletiR, visual Com, yeah G, nine percent was the highest test crade. What invisual communication? That'sexample on Mank. Imagine three hundred level class the highest grade, its justlike theories all over again. Yeah! That's that's the other point. As aprofessor, I would have no problem giving the highest grade as like aneighty five or something on a past, no problem with it and then you curve upand then you cro give us seensas eigt short Enin Ues. Seventy wasn't Ahabeanyes right. She was tough wow. You know he doesn't curvedoes, not occurb.No, no, like twelve of US guys, DS PEOPLE AT F on visit in this vision ististay an them he's notoriously like inconsistent withhis testing, though yeah the ISENS take tipiclear we're talkingabout DTOR, I'm at Attihe's Gonto be on a podcast et, be funny I', like that he diicouldhe totally would yeah. Can You IMATT that o Don Media? No, you have someinteresting topics. It'd be interesting, but I have to be very oll my game. It wouldn't be like that podcast Beauswas Sydney. Were I had to addit out. Certain things e should be was wildyeah. It was bad. It was really bad. Certain guests just come in and I think,like everything becomes a lot looser and more casual you're, more lucid and Nyou St yea yeah it', Yourachil Guembcause. You just worked out Ron that, like that's well, IAS WE'Veen we'vebeen doinged it for a while, like before it was like. We have to geteverything right and now it's like we'll just add it out. Whatever doesn'twork yeah, you guys are shilted Yeah Yoy, we're good speaking of chill it'stime to go shil out, that's a fantastics that way get out yeah times,EO Ot of dot good night good evening, Imorn Cau! I have a GT rest of yourweek. We'll see you next time will talk to you guys, Fo, Oh yeah, O Tim Yo nexttame on Nika, David.

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